[GT] 2024 US Election

[Muta]

Time to turn off the news for many, many months. Society's hard turn to the extreme right is just not a fun timeline.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Haha who cares about Ukraine! Or lgbtq or women or freedom of the press or minorities or the environment or civil service or freedom speech or Russian interference or….

Yeah, this exactly. Privileged white people often have ignorant views on what a far right reign means to people they don't know or care about. (Trump/UCP etc). Everything's the same for me, so therefore the same for everyone.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Pretty much worst case scenario; a return to Trump suckling Putin's teet and the EU being as sackless as a dehydrated monk. Not a good combination.

Trump is going to sell out Ukraine on Day One. And it is at that point that Russia will have fully puppet-mastered Trump and his MAGA republicans to achieve all of his geopolitical dreams.

A vote for Trump is a vote for Putin.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I honestly do think that the Dems over did it with Harris' attacks on Trump and using terms like Facist and Hitler. She probably created a increased rush to the polls by Republicans and undecided voters.

I agree with you CC. The Dems did a poor job of rallying their own base after the euphoria of her coronation and thrashing of Trump in the debate.

The country leans Republican and the electoral college favors them as well. Sitting on your lead isn't enough especially in the rust belt where it was always close.

Third election in a row where Trump exceeds his polling numbers so this isn't really a surprise.

[CaptainCrunch]

Whats the oldest saying about winning an election.


"Its the economy stupid".


You'd think that would be easy to figure out in a capitalist society.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by GGG

Abortion is outperforming Harris significantly. I think the takeaway is that enshrining abortion rights is popular at the state level and will drive voters but it doesn’t affect the headline vote as much.

This kind of makes sense as once you have a state constitutional right to abortion it’s no longer a federal issue.

And there was no real way for Harris to deliver abortion rights nationwide. Biden couldn't do it, and unless they won a trifecta and got rid of the filibuster, Harris couldn't make it happen either.

Sure, she could replace a conservative justice if they randomly died or something (it's unlikely any of them would step down willingly), but that's still not going to do it on it's own unless she replaced 2 of them. And the notion of tilting the Supreme Court to maybe turn liberal a decade or two from now isn't really going to drive voters.

[TheScorpion]

maybe not the greatest strategy to go from calling Republicans weirdos on national TV to eagerly accepting Dick Cheney's endorsement in October

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Whats the oldest saying about winning an election.


"Its the economy stupid".


You'd think that would be easy to figure out in a capitalist society.

Economic anxiety strikes again!

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I agree with you CC. The Dems did a poor job of rallying their own base after the euphoria of her coronation and thrashing of Trump in the debate.

The country leans Republican and the electoral college favors them as well. Sitting on your lead isn't enough especially in the rust belt where it was always close.

Third election in a row where Trump exceeds his polling numbers so this isn't really a surprise.

Is this the first time we've agreed on something politically





I kid I kid

[MonaTone]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I agree with you CC. The Dems did a poor job of rallying their own base after the euphoria of her coronation and thrashing of Trump in the debate.

The country leans Republican and the electoral college favors them as well. Sitting on your lead isn't enough especially in the rust belt where it was always close.

Third election in a row where Trump exceeds his polling numbers so this isn't really a surprise.

This is all true, but also 50% of the electorate decided a rapist, racist felon is what represents their values or at least isn't a dealbreaker.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Democrats favoured to flip the House.

[Art Vandelay]

Holy #### Americans are ####ing stupid. What a bunch of ####ing imbeciles. Just the stupidest people on earth.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You are extremely wrong. All the rural non educated votes always get counted first. It's the red mirage all over again, Harris is going to win both the election and the popular vote. it is now starting to break that way as the big cities votes start to come in. This looks very very good for Harris.

How are you so wrong and cocksure at the same time on hockey and politics, all the time!?!

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Unfortunately it appears economy (even with the r*tarded tariff logic) and immigration were stronger rallying points than rights (surprised women didn't flock to kamala for this) and childcare.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GGG

Abortion is outperforming Harris significantly. I think the takeaway is that enshrining abortion rights is popular at the state level and will drive voters but it doesn’t affect the headline vote as much.

This kind of makes sense as once you have a state constitutional right to abortion it’s no longer a federal issue.

Yeah I think she's on the popular side of the issue but it's not a ballot box issue for President.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

No, but Ukraine's is.

I think there is a chance that it actually expands the war. Countries like Poland, Moldova, Georgia, Finland, Sweden, and the Baltic States will see it as an existential threat. Especially now that North Korean soldiers are joining, I wouldn't be at all surprised to other countries start providing actual manpower to Ukraine. After that, countries like Germany and France might get more involved as well.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by jayswin

How are you so wrong and cocksure at the same time on hockey and politics, all the time!?!

The guy I wanna hear from is dino7c lol

His takes over the last month are the very definition of “whoops”

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

Holy #### Americans are ####ing stupid. What a bunch of ####ing imbeciles. Just the stupidest people on earth.

Joe Rogan's endorsement was probably checkmate because Americans are that sheepishly dull.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Unfortunately it appears economy (even with the r*tarded tariff logic) and immigration were stronger rallying points than rights (surprised women didn't flock to kamala for this) and childcare.

Yes, Americans in a nutshell. Calipanthersfan and others warn us all the time. Americans don't care about rights or success of lower and middle class. They care about tax breaks for the rich (because they're mislead easily) and the economy (because they don't understand how the economy works) and feel that immigrants are to blame for any dip in the economy.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

The guy I wanna hear from is dino7c lol

His takes over the last month are the very definition of “whoops”

Other than crypto, I think you could make good money off of betting the opposite of what dino says. I know I personally have made money off of it!