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Old 11-05-2024, 09:07 PM   #341
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It’s not about Trump - his popularity ratings are quite low. Most of the swing voters who went Republican were casting a ballot against the status quo, not for Trump.
But also for Trump.
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When you hate immigrants so much you vote to make your country so unappealing no one wants to go to it?

Red State big brain time.
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I dread a hard right north america. Pollieviere getting a majority with a trump presidency is frightening. The unhinged voter base they tapped into sniff power and I fear it's gonna hit the fan.
I think from an economic perspective PP will be good because Trump likes loyalty best and he will suck up to him
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Old 11-05-2024, 09:09 PM   #345
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Welp.

Guess they should have stuck with Biden.
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Old 11-05-2024, 09:10 PM   #346
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What's funny is that they held a referendum on whether or not future referendums should need a 60% threshold to pass. It got 57% support and passed.
That does bode well for 2026 abortion fixes.
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Old 11-05-2024, 09:11 PM   #347
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I think from an economic perspective PP will be good because Trump likes loyalty best and he will suck up to him
I was going to say. In a world where we don’t have to worry much about whatever the US is doing, PP is a terrible choice. But in one where Trump is the President? Yeah, I’m thinking PP puts us in a far better position to weather any storm on account of him being a far bigger pushover.
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Honestly, i really don't see how any states have been counted, fully, but it is a full court press online about how trump is winning should win, but it's the same people.


Just a lot of money spent online. Let's see when they start counting all votes. If I am wrong, that's ok, but to think this is any different then a bunch of internet noise, while real vote tallies are being counted into the early morning is silly.

Again, this looked the same but online they are saying the same things, declare victory early, pay money for poll reactions.
Ignore the online trolls, prognosticators and polls. Know that when the votes are counted this will look way different. Even if Harris was to lose, the polls will be way way closer.

Just like 4 years ago or 2, just online being bought.

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He’s got a big lead in PA. This thing is over. Not going all week.
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That does bode well for 2026 abortion fixes.
Maybe I wasn't clear. The rule used to be 50% +1 for referendums in Florida. But then they held a referendum a few years ago whether to raise that to 60%. It passed because it got over 50% +1, but it seems pretty ridiculous to make that change when it wouldn't pass under the new standard it was creating.
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The Harris campaign says there's still a ton of votes to come from urban counties in PA.
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The Harris campaign says there's still a ton of votes to come from urban counties in PA.
She’s down 160k

The votes being tabulated just 10-30k.

It’s over.
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Honestly, i really don't see how any states have been counted, fully, but it is a full court press online about how trump is winning should win, but it's the same people.


Just a lot of money spent online. Let's see when they start counting all votes.

Again, this looked the same but online they are saying things, paying money for poll reactions. ignore the online trolls and polls, know that when the votes are counted this will look way different.


Just like 4 years ago or 2, just online being bought.
The % of vote counted is significantly higher this year. See opendoors post above.

Like you are suggesting NYT, Silver, 538, the AP, CNN,MSNBC are all being bought?

Could Harris come back? Yes, Are her odds being misrepresented by the media? No.

As an aside every two years Florida gets to be the best state. They run a tight ship since 2000 on elections. Every state should follow what they do.
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Welp.

Guess they should have stuck with Biden.
I thought Sherrod Brown was the guy, personally.
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Old 11-05-2024, 09:16 PM   #356
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Maybe I wasn't clear. The rule used to be 50% +1 for referendums in Florida. But then they held a referendum a few years ago whether to raise that to 60%. It passed because it got over 50% +1, but it seems pretty ridiculous to make that change when it wouldn't pass under the new standard it was creating.
Damn I read that backwards.
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Old 11-05-2024, 09:17 PM   #357
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Sad to watch what the U.S. has become. And it ain't going to get any better any time soon.

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I thought Sherrod Brown was the guy, personally.
He out performed Harris by 5 points in Ohio.
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I was going to say. In a world where we don’t have to worry much about whatever the US is doing, PP is a terrible choice. But in one where Trump is the President? Yeah, I’m thinking PP puts us in a far better position to weather any storm on account of him being a far bigger pushover.
I would prefer having leader with the moral backbone to stand up to a fascist rapist dip#### than one who bends over to him even if it effects trade.
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I thought Sherrod Brown was the guy, personally.
I think I read he lost tonight? If so, that sucks. I like him too.
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