[GT] Devils vs. Flames 11/01/2024

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Jiri beating the same drum for the last what 13 years ?

Because it’s still in the game
Why can’t I express my view?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Auto correct.

It's actually spelled ‘auto corrupt’. But it keeps changing that to ‘correct’ because it's trying to prevent mere humans from creating bad PR for the product.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Because it’s still in the game
Why can’t I express my view?

Has somebody said that you couldn't express your view?

Or are you one of these people who equate the mere expression of opposing views with censorship of your own view?

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Are there not things you love but not everything about those things?
When you love a TV show does that mean you love all the episodes and all the actors in it?

I'm not attacking posters. I'm debating. Frankly you are the one being hostile about it.

Yes, baiting by associating me liking the sport the way it is with bloodlust is fine. All I said is the sport is the way it is and if you don't like it you can always watch something else. You aren't going to change anyone's mind and I don't think body checking, fighting or physicality are leaving the sport any time soon so it is what it is. If that's hostile to you, I don't know what to tell you.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by ST20

Technically floor hockey is still hockey... I kid... mostly.

Serious question though. Would you ban hitting from hockey? I say this because you don't really need hitting in hockey at all because you can separate the puck from player with your stick. Some of the best defensemen and players of all time barely hit. Physical contact via checking/tackling is not really needed in any sport aside from football where tackling is the only way to stop the other team from advancing the ball.

Now that staged fights are gone (100% agree with this) I would imagine that body checks are a far greater threat for head trauma than a random fight here and there. If you're worried about head trauma this would be higher priority than the random fight. There is no fighting allowed in football and I am pretty sure they have a much bigger CTE problem than the NHL.

Yes in my view hitting should evolve to be checking. Anything beyond what is required to retrieve the puck should not be allowed
I acknowledge that’s an extreme view and a massive change with a lot of complexity
Getting rid of fighting though? Easy.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Yes in my view hitting should evolve to be checking. Anything beyond what is required to retrieve the puck should not be allowed
I acknowledge that’s an extreme view and a massive change with a lot of complexity
Getting rid of fighting though? Easy.

Ya, no fighting in Europe leugues or any other sport.

Never seen a fight in football or baseball ... o wait

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Yes in my view hitting should evolve to be checking. Anything beyond what is required to retrieve the puck should not be allowed
I acknowledge that’s an extreme view and a massive change with a lot of complexity

It would destroy the game utterly. The problem with that standard is that it is no standard at all, but a matter of each official's opinion on something that could have happened but didn't.

‘Yes, #15 separated his man from the puck, but it is my belief that he could have exerted 14% fewer newtons of force on his opponent and achieved the same result. Of course I can't run an experiment to check that under controlled conditions, but wotthehell, I'm the ref! Therefore, minor penalty for hitting too hard.’

There is simply no objective way to measure what could or should have happened. No form of honest competition can be scored in such a way.

[dino7c]

Leagues with no fighting seem to have more stick swinging

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Has somebody said that you couldn't express your view?

Or are you one of these people who equate the mere expression of opposing views with censorship of your own view?

Clearly some would prefer I stop “beating the drum”

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Ya, no fighting in Europe leugues or any other sport.

Never seen a fight in football or baseball ... o wait

And when those happens players are suspended

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Leagues with no fighting seem to have more stick swinging

We need to keep fighting out so we have more people brasherd....

Followed the Swedish leugue during the last lock out and boy the "wood" sure flyed also whatch the khl last year casually and man the elbows and late hits are definitely a thing.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Clearly some would prefer I stop “beating the drum”

Seeing the same argument for the 1000th time is rather tiresome. Not much benefit in trying to relitigate it every time there's a notable fight in a game.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

And when those happens players are suspended

Ya and no cheapshot happen to the players they don't suspend.

Keep fighting out so more people do cheap hits.

If foot ball didn't have massive hits no one would watch . Where's the national flag football leugue?

Christ they had to start a leugue in where woman were allowed to hit before it actually started becoming somewhat popular.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Seeing the same argument for the 1000th time is rather tiresome. Not much benefit in trying to relitigate it every time there's a notable fight in a game.

Do I do that?
I raise it when it’s relevant.
Every argument on this site has been had hundreds of time.
If people can complain about the Flames miss handling Sam Bennet for the hundreth time I can complain about fighting

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by yourmother

how the heck are people still spelling it jerome after all this time?

cte

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Because it’s still in the game
Why can’t I express my view?

Express away but as a great man once said.

"I learned long ago to tolerate others rather than forcing my beliefs on them. You know, you can influence people without badgering them always. It's like Paul's song, 'Live and Let Live'." - Apu

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

And when those happens players are suspended

So your saying it's not totally out of the game and still exists?

[Yobbo]

Because hockey is such a fast-paced, high-contact sport, emotions can run high, and physical altercations are almost inevitable. Allowing controlled fighting can prevent players from resorting to even more dangerous forms of aggression, like high-sticking or slashing, which can cause more serious injuries. In this way, fighting acts as a "safety valve," keeping the play fair and reducing sneaky, retaliatory hits.

Additionally, many fans and players see fighting as an important cultural element of the game, integral to its identity and excitement. Fighting allows players to stand up for their teammates, demonstrating camaraderie and toughness, which resonates with many fans who feel it makes hockey unique and thrilling to watch. Some would even argue that trying to eliminate fighting would strip hockey of part of its authenticity and alienate a large segment of its loyal fan base.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

So your saying it's not totally out of the game and still exists?

If it was handled as it was in other sports I would be happy with that

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Do I do that?
I raise it when it’s relevant.
Every argument on this site has been had hundreds of time.
If people can complain about the Flames miss handling Sam Bennet for the hundreth time I can complain about fighting

I thought you were fine. I don’t agree with your opinion but I didn’t sense any thing inappropriate. Not sure people know how to disagree anymore without taking it personally.