[GT] Devils vs. Flames 11/01/2024

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Junglist

Do you know every detail about his life?

Should we ban blades on skates because that guy playing in Europe got his neck cut last year and died?

You can’t have hockey without skate blades
You can have hockey without fighting
It’s about taking reasonable steps to prevent serious long term health issues

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

He had 69 fights in his career you tell me.

Jerome had 72 but could score so ya by TODAY standards I would consider them both as ones .

To put that in perspective Derek Boogard only ever had 60 nhl fights

So if Iggy dropped dead because of CTE related issues would you feel differently?

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

You can’t have hockey without skate blades
You can have hockey without fighting
It’s about taking reasonable steps to prevent serious long term health issues

Hockey shouldn't be played at all then. No physical sport should be .

Statistically body hits do more damage than fights do.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

So if Iggy dropped dead because of CTE related issues would you feel differently?

No, I wouldn't.

They signed contracts worth multiple millions to say they accept the risks.

Just like I go to work everyday and will never see 5% of what they made in a year to do a.much more dangerous job. It's part of what they signed up for

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Hockey shouldn't be played at all then. No physical sport should be .

Statistically body hits do more damage than fights do.

Well I also think body checking needs to evolve further away from big hits but that’s a different debate
Again though it’s easy to ban hockey and keep the sport otherwise intact
Hockey doesn’t need fighting

[Paulie Walnuts]

Guys please.

It’s Jarome. Not Jerome.

Please.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

No, I wouldn't.

They signed contracts worth multiple millions to say they accept the risks.

Just like I go to work everyday and will never see 5% of what they made in a year to do a.much more dangerous job. It's part of what they signed up for

Pretty twisted view but ok

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Hockey shouldn't be played at all then. No physical sport should be .

Statistically body hits do more damage than fights do.

With this train of thought, they never should have invented seatbelts or airbags to make cars safer?

The world has changed since the NHL decided a fight should be worth 5 minutes in penalties. You don’t think they should change that stance?

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

No, I wouldn't.

They signed contracts worth multiple millions to say they accept the risks.

Just like I go to work everyday and will never see 5% of what they made in a year to do a.much more dangerous job. It's part of what they signed up for

So you’re saying they’re paid enough so that they should be excluded from the scientific findings that brain trauma = bad?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

What’s the difference to the brain trauma if the fight was staged or not?

Repetition.

If two guys happen to blow their stack at each other and trade punches, that's not likely to happen to the same players game after game. It's the cumulative impact that really tells on the brain.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Well I also think body checking needs to evolve further away from big hits but that’s a different debate
Again though it’s easy to ban hockey and keep the sport otherwise intact
Hockey doesn’t need fighting

Hockey dosen't need anything hitting they don't need the glass around the boards , just make it so you can shoot a certain way.... etc etc You can play that game all day.

[YourMother]

How the heck are people still spelling it Jerome after all this time?

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

With this train of thought, they never should have invented seatbelts or airbags to make cars safer?



So you’re saying they’re paid enough so that they should be excluded from the scientific findings that brain trauma = bad?

Actually airbags have been shown to create alot of extra head trauma. Seat belts and no airbags make more sense.

Who said excluded from Science findings? I just said the accepted they risks for a price like we all do.

[dino7c]

Flames play their best game of the year and shutout Markstom and this is the GT

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

You can’t have hockey without skate blades
You can have hockey without fighting
It’s about taking reasonable steps to prevent serious long term health issues

Are we proposing to remove body contact then? Far more concussions from body contact than fighting.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Pretty twisted view but ok

Realistic veiw.

Kids game = millions
Cop, milatary, mine worker , bouncer , security guard etc etc paid #### all. All that could actually die at any moment.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Well I also think body checking needs to evolve further away from big hits but that’s a different debate
Again though it’s easy to ban hockey and keep the sport otherwise intact
Hockey doesn’t need fighting

I believe that is what, in politics, is known as a ‘Kinsley gaffe’.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Flames play their best game of the year and shutout Markstom and this is the GT

Jiri beating the same drum for the last what 13 years ?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Are we proposing to remove body contact then? Far more concussions from body contact than fighting.

They’ve changed the rules on hitting pretty significantly in the last 20 years or so.

They haven’t changed the rules on fighting much at all (other than I guess if a 2nd fight breaks out those players are then kicked out of the game?). I guess they also said they don’t want players taking their helmets off before a fight?

It’s weird that they’ve made significant changes to one, and not the other.

Even making the rule change to “if you fight, you get an auto-game misconduct” would go a long way.

[ST20]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

You can’t have hockey without skate blades
You can have hockey without fighting
It’s about taking reasonable steps to prevent serious long term health issues

Technically floor hockey is still hockey... I kid... mostly.

Serious question though. Would you ban hitting from hockey? I say this because you don't really need hitting in hockey at all because you can separate the puck from player with your stick. Some of the best defensemen and players of all time barely hit. Physical contact via checking/tackling is not really needed in any sport aside from football where tackling is the only way to stop the other team from advancing the ball.

Now that staged fights are gone (100% agree with this) I would imagine that body checks are a far greater threat for head trauma than a random fight here and there. If you're worried about head trauma this would be higher priority than the random fight. There is no fighting allowed in football and I am pretty sure they have a much bigger CTE problem than the NHL.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by YourMother

How the heck are people still spelling it Jerome after all this time?

Auto correct.