[PGT] Loss - 10/28/2024 - Golden Knights defeat Flames 5-0

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by UKflames

We lose a bad one, a few games in a row, and sudenly people start dumping on Huska, but not a peep when we were undefeated in 5.

Not to worried about Zary playing W, he'sprobably learning a lot from watching Backlund play C, before they eventualy switch him.

Whatever situation he’s in, he has 7 points in 9 games, second on the team. If that were Bennett at any point in time, we would have jumped for joy.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Looks like I made the right decision not watching this one

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Lost to a much better team.

This is what a rebuild looks like. Going to be painful at times.

Yeah, I felt bad for a lot of fans that saw the first few games and started talking where the franchise goes now that our team is winning (I legit read one fan speculating on what it would take to sign Mantha, long term because of his 3 game start, lol). Such is the life of the average fan. A few bad games is disaster, a few good games is time to push the chips in.

It'll be a long season with more wins than losses and hopefully a high draft pick, but I like the younger players and what they're bringing so far. Honestly, if our goalies keep playing as well as they have AND we lose games despite it, that's the best case scenario. We need two elite players from the draft at minimum to contend for a Cup, so let's stay that course that Conroy has set.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Hells Bells

No. I expected a bad team, not this though.

This looks like a team made worse by a terrible coach. If it gets a lottery pick I'm all for it. Just not a fan of Huska's in game management. Nor his lines or healthy scratches.

No, they're literally a bottom five roster and will be beat the majority of games if all things are equal. They need bounces and things going their way to win games. And when they don't get that I don't want to hear hundreds of fans on this site losing their minds at coaching and players as if we don't know what this team is.

It's a rebuilding, basement roster. Just enjoy the rebuild and what the young players are building, muppets.

[keenan87]

The Flames are now 12th in overall standings. I believe they were 1st or 2nd a week ago.

I want them to lose. Please score some goals and pad your stats though.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by jayswin

We need two elite players from the draft at minimum to contend for a Cup, so let's stay that course that Conroy has set.

If you add two elite players to this roster you have a roster with 2 elite players.

The Flames are many players (and years) away from being a contender.

Now Wolf may become an elite goalie, and that would be huge. Zary is making a believer out of me, although I expect he's more 2nd line than 1st line.

Parekh is a very good prospect, but just that. He cannot be pencilled in yet.

Calgary needs to keep adding talent, because, for the most part, their best players, Weegar, Andersson and Kadri, will not be around for when the rebuild is done.

[Monahammer]

Rooney is a bad luck charm. Our tank commander.

[Flamesfan05]

Badly need a top center. Losing is not a problem as long as the young guys continue to develop.

The only issue is watching guys like Huberdeau and Mantha. Frustrating as hell.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Junglist

Hanley is so good.

I thought Barrie had a good night.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Badly need a top center. Losing is not a problem as long as the young guys continue to develop.

The only issue is watching guys like Huberdeau and Mantha. Frustrating as hell.

What young guys?
All I see as far as core youth on the team are Zary, Pospisil & Wolf.
We desperately need to unload some vets this year.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

They are 5-3-1 and their losses have all come against very good teams.

What were you expecting from a bad team?

A lot of people wanted a rebuild and high draft picks. We are 9 games into the first season of a few bad ones and people are already upset. I don't think some fans are ready for what they asked for.

Exactly this. They are basically in month 10 of a rebuild. It appears like they have a very good 23 yr old goalie. They definitely have two legitimate top pairing dmen, one of whom is locked down long term and the other who could be signed or traded for more pieces of the rebuild. They have a 24 yr old dman who looks like he is an NHLer and 27 yr old that looks like he might be. They have a tonne of defensive prospects.

Up front they have a 23 yr old who looks like he is a top six player. A soon to be 25 yr old who looks like he is a top 9 player and a number of vets that could be trade bait at some point in time. It looks like they have a number of talented wingers in the prospect system and they currently have 10 picks in the first 3 rounds over the next two years.

Not going to lose too much sleep over a loss to a team that is 16 months removed from winning the Stanley Cup.

[Royle9]

Reality check for the hot start, most of the guys that came out playing games looking like players from 4-5 years ago have come back down to reality.

We just need to start playing the youth though, there’s just no need for extended looks at Hanley and Rooney though Huska seemingly loves both more than he should. Start giving your future players more development time and learning the positions you want them to be in the next few years.

But yea, this is the hockey we signed up for…. For the most part. Honestly I’m okay with it, but I’d rather see the kids than the guys who are in now not giving a ####. I do know that Craig isn’t blind to this either, Flames are still very much looking for that 20-25 year old center to build into the future.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Hells Bells

Vegas a legit cup contender? Not sure about that lol.

I'd put money on the Leafs in a playoff series vs. VGK.

Yeah, a core of Eichel, Stone, Hertl, Karlsson, Theodore, Pietrangelo, and Hanifin, supplemented by roleplayers like Barbashev, McNabb, Whitecloud, Hague, and Kolesar, icing the biggest roster in the NHL, and full of Cup-winning experience - they don’t scare anybody. That +19 goals differential - tops in the league - is just a mirage.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

They definitely have two legitimate top pairing dmen, one of whom is locked down long term and the other who could be signed or traded for more pieces of the rebuild.

Neither of whom will be around when the rebuild is over.

We need to be looking at players on the team who will be around in 5 years.

Andersson's and Weegar's value is as trade chips down the line. Neither should be counted on as core pieces of the next playoff team.

Signing Andersson to an extension will just prolong the rebuild process and, in fact, hinders their draft position.

[boogerz]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Neither of whom will be around when the rebuild is over.

We need to be looking at players on the team who will be around in 5 years.

Andersson's and Weegar's value is as trade chips down the line. Neither should be counted on as core pieces of the next playoff team.

Signing Andersson to an extension will just prolong the rebuild process and, in fact, hinders their draft position.

Unless the Flames are upgrading (e.g. Utah's Moser for Sergachev trade), getting rid of the only two Top4 defensemen is a recipe for heading down the same path as Buffalo.

Andersson and Weegar aren't the problem. Playing older "vets" like Hanley and Miromanov instead of the younger players is the real issue.

The Flames should be following the Anaheim approach, where the young guys are paired up with solid vets like Andersson and Weegar instead of being expected to carry their own pairing from day 1 (aka the Buffalo approach)

[Toonage]

Every time I looked up it felt like Hanley was on the ice, and in his own end. I get the coach feeling like guys have to get in after long stretches of not playing but that just isn't the case, especially when you were winning. Rooney didn't need to come back in either.

Also, not entirely related to this game, anyone else get the feeling that at the end of the year when the NHL is called out by teams about officiating, they show a video of all the by the book calls their guys make, and its full of Calgary Flames highlights?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by boogerz

Unless the Flames are upgrading (e.g. Utah's Moser for Sergachev trade), getting rid of the only two Top4 defensemen is a recipe for heading down the same path as Buffalo.

Andersson and Weegar aren't the problem. Playing older "vets" like Hanley and Miromanov instead of the younger players is the real issue.

The Flames should be following the Anaheim approach, where the young guys are paired up with solid vets like Andersson and Weegar instead of being expected to carry their own pairing from day 1 (aka the Buffalo approach)

Weegar probably stays but if Andersson doesn't want to stay in Calgary then they should trade him sooner than later and avoid trading him at the deadline next season

[Number 39]

Regarding Huberdeau, I’ve come to terms that this is pretty much what he is and its less frustrating to just forget he’s on the team. Best case scenario at this point is to hope that when a new CBA is put in place after 2025-2026 that it includes buyout options.

[Rhett44]

It seems some people were blinded by the hot start. Even the Sharks played good for some 5 game stretches last year.

This isn't a good team and they won't make the playoffs. We need a high draft pick anyways.

[WhiteTiger]

Not the desired result.


I liked Zary, and felt good about Vladar, too.