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Old 10-19-2024, 02:32 PM   #19081
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I don’t know if that would fly.
If this was intentional that was pretty funny.

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Old 10-22-2024, 07:55 AM   #19083
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People who answer an either or question with a yes or no answer.

“Did you send over a sales order for the parts we picked up the other day or are you waiting for the rest of the parts to arrive?”

“Yes”

Yes, as in thirty days from now, when you don’t have a PO and accounting is on your case you are going to submit a stale order and want me to back date a PO?

Ok good, as long as we are clear.
People shouldn’t ask either or questions as it presumes the answer of the other person. Yes or no questions aren’t great either. What is the status of order xxxx encourages the person to give you the info you need and in more complicated situations encourages them to add their expertise
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Updated video from the body cam of the arriving officer at the cyclist/skateboarder incident. The crying, whining and begging of the cyclist is amazing to watch. I'm not a fan of the popo, but this one's alright!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1848472633903616199
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Old 10-22-2024, 09:36 AM   #19085
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Just another bully that’s used to pushing people around and getting what he wants but freaks out as soon as he’s held accountable for his actions.

That video being released is a nice little cherry on top of the #### sundae he was fed.
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Old 10-22-2024, 09:49 AM   #19086
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Proper work clothes........

I was in them all last week while working in Toronto, now I have another in person meeting I need to hit.

I just wanna be in my sweats and hoodie
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I bought a pair of work trousers today for the first time since 2020.

I don’t plan on wearing them much - at least I hope not to.
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Old 10-22-2024, 09:59 AM   #19088
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Proper work clothes........

I was in them all last week while working in Toronto, now I have another in person meeting I need to hit.

I just wanna be in my sweats and hoodie
Lululemon makes work-appropriate men’s stuff that is about as comfortable as you’re going to get, to the point where I’ll just wear it when I’m lounging
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Proper work clothes........

I was in them all last week while working in Toronto, now I have another in person meeting I need to hit.

I just wanna be in my sweats and hoodie
You should get a job where the uniform is sweats and a hoodie then. How are you at Magic, The Gathering?
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Old 10-22-2024, 10:01 AM   #19090
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Lululemon makes work-appropriate men’s stuff that is about as comfortable as you’re going to get, to the point where I’ll just wear it when I’m lounging
But then you have to give money to Chip, and no dude named Chip is getting money from me, unless it's the Mr Dorito guy.
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Old 10-22-2024, 10:03 AM   #19091
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That's what ABC pants are for. Durable and comfortable dress pants you can do Yoga in.

They cost a little bit more, but get a pair you wouldn't mind wearing occasionally outside of work situations. Then it doesn't feel like it's as much of a waste leaving it in a dark closet all the time.
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That's what ABC pants are for. Durable and comfortable dress pants you can do Yoga in.

They cost a little bit more, but get a pair you wouldn't mind wearing occasionally outside of work situations. Then it doesn't feel like it's as much of a waste leaving it in a dark closet all the time.
Gotta be cautious on the fabric choice though. I find some of their heavier fabrics (like VersaTwill) are fantastic. But some (like Warpstreme) are way too yoga pants for me (YMMV).

Still, tons of options. Worthy investment even if it’s just for a set of office attire you don’t hate to wear. It sounds dorky but they make really good everything clothing. I have a few pieces that I use for the office, travelling, golf, lounging, and going out.
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Lululemon makes work-appropriate men’s stuff that is about as comfortable as you’re going to get, to the point where I’ll just wear it when I’m lounging
You didn't say this, but are traditionally "dressy" clothes really uncomfortable? I wear a suit M-Th 80% of the time as I'm meeting with clients or a sport jacket with shirt and pants/jeans otherwise, and have never found a dress shirt or dress pants uncomfortable. I wonder if people are just not buying things that properly fit? I've heard it a lot but personally have never found it uncomfortable.
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You didn't say this, but are traditionally "dressy" clothes really uncomfortable? I wear a suit M-Th 80% of the time as I'm meeting with clients or a sport jacket with shirt and pants/jeans otherwise, and have never found a dress shirt or dress pants uncomfortable. I wonder if people are just not buying things that properly fit? I've heard it a lot but personally have never found it uncomfortable.
Not totally uncomfortable. IMO, unrestricted motion is more comfy to wear which is more comfortable. But mentally, knowing I could do full range of motion and not worry was also a peace of mind type of comfort too.

For me personally, biggest thing was always durability due to it being stiffer than regular clothing. Especially athletic/lounge clothing. I needed to be careful of how I moved at times or a slightly tighter piece of clothing could easily rip (ie: shrink after laundered). Most clothing needed to be cycled out after 2-4 years prior to getting the stretchy stuff. I have never thrown out any of the stretchy stuff and I think some of it is now almost 8 years old. At worst it gets relegated to semi casual clothing.

Kit and Ace and Lululemon were the first to enter into this business casual area and blend their cotton, wool or cashmere fabrics with stretchy or more durable material like spandex and polyester. If the clothes shrank a little after laundering, you could still stretch it without worry of an easy seam blow out. It also made it more durable and the clothing would continue to look good (not as ragged or shrunken) longer than traditional dress clothing.

I remember ripping a seam on a dress shirt trying to roll it up for a vaccine because it was so stiff. With the Kit and Ace stretchy stuff, it's never been an issue ever again. If I have a chiro/physio appointment during the day, it's great to know I can do the basic full range exercises on the spot in work wear without needing to bring a change of clothes.
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You didn't say this, but are traditionally "dressy" clothes really uncomfortable? I wear a suit M-Th 80% of the time as I'm meeting with clients or a sport jacket with shirt and pants/jeans otherwise, and have never found a dress shirt or dress pants uncomfortable. I wonder if people are just not buying things that properly fit? I've heard it a lot but personally have never found it uncomfortable.
Probably, I cannot stand anything suit related. Ties are the worst, the choking part I cannot get used too and if its too loose it looks bad.
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A tucked-in shirt is almost inherently uncomfortable.
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The last time I wore a tie was for someone's wedding. I'd hate to wear that every day for work!
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Probably, I cannot stand anything suit related. Ties are the worst, the choking part I cannot get used too and if its too loose it looks bad.
I'm done with suits and ties. Fk em completely. I'm not dressing up in a monkey suit for anything.

My mom's friend made me a convert to completely ignoring dress-up conventions (and I always had a loose grip on them, anyway). She wore basically a Hawaiian shirt to my mom's funeral. She said she was there to celebrate her friend. I respected the crap out of that. Shout out Lois.

My friend just died and I wore Vans to his funeral (bought them new so they looked good; not just some old dusty things from the closet). We met skateboarding in grade 6, so fk it, I'm not wearing some lame-ass dress shoes to make fashion nerds happy. I'm there for my friend and we had nothing but fun together for 35 years. Fun shoes it was.

It's really freeing to ignore this dumb stuff.

Have box seats at the dome for some stuffy thing coming up for a financial company. I know everyone will be in suits and crap because I've done this before. Not me. I don't care. I'll wear a hoodie and jeans. In fact, last time I was in a box was for Tool and most people were dressed up because it was a corporate box. Once they saw one guy (me) didn't GAF about looking like you're supposed to, off came the dress shirts to the extent possible and we all had way more fun. Weeded it down to the cool people almost instantly and we had a blast while everyone behind us was on their best behaviour.

Putting on a suit is such a cheeseball way to conform and elicit a type of behaviour that limits fun, honestly. When people dress how they want (without being disrespectful; like, you can look sharp and like you care even though you aren't in the traditional outfit expected) they just seem more fun to me. On this thing coming up I guarantee I'll gel with somebody else that will like that I'm in a hoodie (even if they aren't) and I'll turn off the people that think I cOuLd HaVe DrEsSeD uP since this isn't high school. Sweet, I don't want to talk to you, either. Go over there and talk about the weather and the terrible road construction everywhere. I'll be over here with this dude drinking and having fun.

I say all that knowing there are some people at a station in life where they don't have this option. I'm lucky I can get away with this attitude.
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I say all that knowing there are some people at a station in life where they don't have this option. I'm lucky I can get away with this attitude.
I think this part sucks. I work for myself from home - so I wear jeans and a t-shirt unless it's summer then it's shorts and a t-shirt.

I get not everyone has that option, but I always try and advocate for more casual dress options for everyone. Just because someone works a service industry job (eg bank teller from the previous discussion) doesn't mean they should have to conform to archaic dress standards imo. Wear the clothes you already have/like - whether you're good or bad at your job isn't determined by what you wear. (Excluding obvious safety requirement type items, hairnet in a kitchen, steel toed boots, scrubs for medical etc)
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Once you get older it's much easier to get away with the choosing your own comfort route. I mean, I never stopped wearing skate shoes, so that was a little stamp of rebellion, but I feel like old people can go to weddings and funerals in whatever they want, and barely get judged. As a 20 or 30 year old it's daggers.
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