Thank you TheIronMaiden. Sure there are some things that can be better in Canada, but come on, the Liberal Government "irreparably damaging the country". Not happening. Things are pretty damn good in Canada. I can only control what I can control. I don't blame the government of the day, my neighbour, my enemies or anyone else for my situation. I have all the basics and the important stuff you mention. I have been working for just about 50 years now and look forward to retirement with some of the dreaded Social programs helping me out and of course helping my self.
Blackberry stocks hit all time high, just after the iPhone was released.
Corrupt Idiot is prob a bottom 3 PM of all time but Maga Pierre would instantly be the WORST PM of all time!
If you vote for the Manning Institute testtube baby, you might as well book your spot on Highway 1 at the soon to close PetroCan and get honks for deplorableness.
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It's so sad your craphole country has so many deplorables who would even consider voting for him. Brainwashed to the extreme!
You probably should have just added the last paragraph from your post in the other thread to this post, because though I fully expect Americans will elect Harris president we know for sure Canada is most definitely crowning MAGA Pierre PM
You probably should have just added the last paragraph from your post in the other thread to this post, because though I fully expect Americans will elect Harris president we know for sure Canada is most definitely crowning MAGA Pierre PM
I wouldn't count on these stupid polls so far away from the election. It will be up to Ontario to save us form Minime Maga Pierre.
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Some Liberal MPs mount a new effort to oust Justin Trudeau
MPs were pulled into meetings across Parliament Hill this week to sign a pledge demanding change at the top
Some MPs are being asked to sign their names to what amounts to a pledge to stand together in calling for Trudeau to resign, multiple sources said.
The document isn't a letter to be circulated; sources describe it as a vehicle to secure a commitment from MPs to seek a leadership change, and to bind the MPs to that goal if the prime minister and his supporters push back.
Multiple sources told CBC News that MPs have been signing a single document that is being tightly controlled — no copies or photos of it are being circulated.
CBC talking about a very unhappy Liberal caucus with as many as 30-40 MP's asking for Trudeau to step down. Even the Liberal talking head on the panel doesn't deny there are serious problems. We're at a very interesting decision point for the NDP and Bloc, mainly the NDP.
If the reporting is true I can imagine two scenarios.
Scenario #1: Take down the Liberals asap while Trudeau is still the leader and campaign against him in late November.
Scenario #2: Don't do anything. Trudeau steps down and prorogues Parliament to allow for a leadership race. The government returns in the spring with a new leader, introduces a budget and calls an election shortly after.
Regardless of which scenario the parties aren't going to have much more money so that really isn't a factor. Also, there won't be anything done in the house so it's not like they can extract any more concessions.
I can't imagine the Bloc waiting, they aren't getting their pension bill passed and will probably gain seats in an election.
I've said it before but if the NDP ever hope to leapfrog the Liberals they need to get more aggressive. If they allow the Liberals to reset they are unlikely to make any gains in the next election, they might even lose seats.
Except the majority of Canadians would rather the parties keep working together than have an early election, so I don’t see how the parties pulling an unpopular move would help them.
Also, as much as I dislike the Reform party and their Neo-Preston politics, I don't think they will be as damaging as they are being portrayed. While I do think they are on the level of the UCP (Neoliberal Prestonites), I also don't think Federally the populace would put up with everything happening in Alberta to the same extent as Albertans do and they will not be able to push the same agenda. It will be a lot more business friendly, and lower/middle class antagonistic, but nothing that will damage the fabric of the country.
You're not looking at the whole picture. As much as us wonks like to focus on policy and ignore the rest, the problem with Poilievre is that he likes to indulge the alt-right in its nonsense.
A good example of this is that Poilievre said he'd ban cabinet members from attending the World Economic Forum. Is that a big deal? No, not really. But normalizing decision-making based on the whims of conspiracy theorists absolutely is. The best hope for bringing the alt-right back to reality is for the centre-right to reel them in. But instead, Poilievre lets them pull him.
But that's a benign example. There are others that are worse.
Poilievre wants to defund the CBC and promotes the idea that it is Liberal propaganda. He consistently attacks mainstream journalism. Would eliminating our national broadcaster to create a right-wing mediasphere controlled by the wealthy not permanently damage Canada?
Poilievre supports eliminating the carbon tax, I'd wager because it makes him popular with climate change deniers. One consequence of this is that other countries might impose their own carbon taxes on our exports and collect the revenue themselves, instead of us collecting it.
Poilievre blames Trudeau's spending for inflation, even though the whole global economy had inflation. If he were in charge, Canadians would've gotten less help to get through the pandemic. Poilievre rejected dental care for children under 12 in low income families and a one time $500 transfer to low income renters because he viewed it as inflationary spending!
Speaking of pandemics, Poilievre's desire to endorse those who reject science and fight for the right to be disease vectors leads to the kind of policies that have a body count. This is a guy who choses to side with the rats in a plague because they vote for him.
It's not just the immunocompromised and seniors who Poilievre is willing to sacrifice to his party's lunatics. Poilievre supports Danielle Smith's puberty blocker ban, which I've already explained is awful policy. He's throwing trans people under the bus because it's politically convenient. And if a trans person gets attacked by an alt right nutjob he won't be holding the knife. But he'll have been in that person's ear telling them that they're right.
What will be the long-term effects of an alt-right that's been emboldened by Poilievre? If they have learned that they will get their way if they throw a temper tantrum, even if their way kills people?
How would Poilievre react, say, if the next alt-right theory is that First Nations people are ruining Canada? He won't send them to the gas chambers, but based on his track record, I wouldn't put it past him to dog-whistle, rather than condemn, those who would. How might his successor react, if Poilievre shows appeasing the alt-right to be an effective electoral strategy? There's a fire and instead of fighting it he's adding fuel. If we can control it later then there won't be too much permanent harm from a Poilievre government, but what if we can't?
Supporting conspiracy theory nonsense instead of denouncing it ought to be disqualifying.
Being an Albertan, take a look at the oil and gas industry, which is one of the largest drivers of Canada’s economy, and what Trudeau has done to dismantle the industry since he came into power.
Well, we know Trudeau sucks, and it seems he sucks at dismantling oil and gas as well. Canada is producing at all time highs. You blew it again, Trudeau!
Well, we know Trudeau sucks, and it seems he sucks at dismantling oil and gas as well. Canada is producing at all time highs. You blew it again, Trudeau!
The oil & gas business is just fine. It’s the oil & gas construction business that’s taken a hit, and that where all the jobs are. We got hooked on mega-projects.
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The oil & gas business is just fine. It’s the oil & gas construction business that’s taken a hit, and that where all the jobs are. We got hooked on mega-projects.
Oil & gas was a big employer back when there still lots of exploration and conventional wells being drilled. When those activities declined, the oilsands mega projects took off and created loads of jobs. Now those have wound down too. Canada’s oil and gas industry in its current state just doesn’t require that much labour.
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I don’t get all this talk of Canada being so divided today. Quebec hasn’t had a separation referendum in 30 years, and ‘the West wants in’ movement of the 90s ended up with Reform going mainstream and taking over the Conservatives. And this is PP's main play to becoming Prime Minister. He is absolutely a part of an attempt to divide the country in the manner of US Republicans.
A lot of handwringing about Canadian politics seems to come from people who didn’t start following politics until their 30s, and assume everything was just fine when they were kids because they didn’t follow the news.
It's because the "OMG wokeness/far right/conspiracy" crowd has got ahold of Canada and won't let go. Joe Rogan and all those dummies in the US constantly go on about Canada being woke and broken, and then our stupid far right citizens fall for it and constantly parrot that we're broken.
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The US has it right. Say all of the right things on environmental issues, and fight for them in the press... and then go ahead and build out O&G like absolute madmen.
Yep, Obama nailed this better than any President. Went right after Canada as soon as he was in office, pressuring us to cut down Oil production and increase barriers to selling our own Oil and then quickly approved more US pipelines than anyone in history.
Smart play.
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Those pp ads are so dumb, he says everything is horrible, crime is rampant but there he is just walking around the streets and playgrounds with his props...i mean family. How is it possibly safe to walk the streets like he did!
I am starting to get his stupid ads all over my social media, particularly YouTube. Even though I skip through them as soon as possible, he has to have the most grating voice and delivery on messaging I've ever heard in Canadian politics. Like nails on a chalkboard enjoyable.
Those pp ads are so dumb, he says everything is horrible, crime is rampant but there he is just walking around the streets and playgrounds with his props...i mean family. How is it possibly safe to walk the streets like he did!
Probably hired a crew to clean up the area and displace the junkies a few blocks for this production. Closed security perimeter to keep them safe.
