[News] UPD: Schwindt claimed by VGK. Pelletier and Cooley clear waivers

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by transplant99

PPG???

What the hell is this guy talking about?

He is PPg in the AHL

[rhino]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

Beyond stupid if true imo.

He’s Matthew Phillips 2.0

[Zoller]

Pelletier is trending on eliteprospects

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Flames first round pick doesn’t pan out. News at 11.

*late first round pick

Those are the ones the Flames seem to whiff on perennially. If he was a second rounder he'd be an impact middle sixer already.

Late first round is a graveyard for us.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by looooob

that just seems like a really confusing way of doing things (even if I agree with you about enough D for the Wranglers)


I mean sure make a call on Hanley over Pelletier (or Schwindt if you prefer), but that shouldn't be the reason. 33 year Hanley can- if the play is really to ensure all of your prospects see the ice in the A- eat popcorn there as much as here, no? (with the added advantage of showing them the ropes a little?)



I suppose some sort of long game is that they think he will have TDL value

It's less about Hanley and more about Pelletier. If they kept Pelletier up on the big club, he'd definitely be eating popcorn more often than he would in the A, where he'll be an every day guy in the lineup. Hanley, you're right, will likely eat popcorn most of the time on both teams. So given those options, Flames are taking the risk and hoping Pelletier clears, so he can get into every Wranglers game.

[dino7c]

Seems like there have been as good or better players on waivers every day. If they lost him they could score an upgrade

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Cooley could be an upgrade up the QE2 lol.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Zoller

Pelletier is trending on eliteprospects

A lot of people thinking, "He's a former first round pick, why would they waive him?" then looking up his stats and understanding.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by activeStick

It's less about Hanley and more about Pelletier. If they kept Pelletier up on the big club, he'd definitely be eating popcorn more often than he would in the A, where he'll be an every day guy in the lineup. Hanley, you're right, will likely eat popcorn most of the time on both teams. So given those options, Flames are taking the risk and hoping Pelletier clears, so he can get into every Wranglers game.

and that is a defensible decision (I may not agree with it but defensible) I just think its a better reason that we can't waive Hanley because we have too many AHL D

[Jiri Hrdina]

Honestly I care more about potentially losing Cooley

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Honestly I care more about potentially losing Cooley

yeah that's interesting- but would you have kept him up? 3 goalie things are always weird


there was still an easy path to it if they choose- sorry Hanley I'm looking in your direction again...

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Honestly I care more about potentially losing Cooley

This!!!
He’s shown much more with his opportunities

[SuperMatt18]

Hanley not being waived makes the Pelletier and Cooley thing even more confusing.

Although with Cooley I get not keeping 3 goalies.

But with forwards you could easily keep 14 and then if Klapka or Honzek don't make an impression you can easily send them down and still have Pelletier here.

[ah123]

Nvm

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by looooob

yeah that's interesting- but would you have kept him up? 3 goalie things are always weird


there was still an easy path to it if they choose- sorry Hanley I'm looking in your direction again...

It's not like there's a clear cut starter right now.

This is one of those few situations where you'd entertain it. Vladar had half the shot volume of Helle and managed to lose. Still not seeing a guy that's taken a step or looks on the verge of taking one, but we'll see.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

Pelts was training with Huberdeau throughout the summer.

Honzek was training with Pospisil the entire summer.

So can we get Huberdeau training with Pospisil next summer if he has another 50P season?

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I honestly don't see Pelletier clearing waivers. Is it bad asset management? Maybe. At the same time are we really missing a guy like Valimaki right now?

"Loosing Valimaki for nothing!!" is actually very interesting to explore right now, as if we hadn't lost the former 1st round, 16th pick overall from the 2017 draft for nothing, we may not have been in the market for signing Bean, the former 1st round, 13th pick overall from the 2016 draft for nothing.

Not sure the team on the ice or the prospect pool of the organization is a lot different with Valimaki here instead of Bean, or that we're any better or worse off with Bean here instead of Valimaki.

[Textcritic]

In situations like this I always suspect that the team has better intel than I do about things. If they were concerned about losing either Pelletier or Cooley on waivers, then they would waive them at a time when they are most confident that they will clear. Is that day today? Or, is the team in possession of better information than the rest of us that suggests there is not much, if any, interest in these players?

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He is PPg in the AHL

Once

[looooob]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

It's not like there's a clear cut starter right now.

This is one of those few situations where you'd entertain it. Vladar had half the shot volume of Helle and managed to lose. Still not seeing a guy that's taken a step or looks on the verge of taking one, but we'll see.

oh I'm not pretending we are in good (short term) goalie shape at the NHL level. its an interesting discussion for sure

[AC]

From that Twitter insider guy regarding Cooley:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1842998287202402529