View Poll Results: Waiver Result?
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Pelletier and Cooley both clear
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57.34% |
Pelletier clears and Cooley is claimed
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4.89% |
Cooley clears and Pelleiter is claimed
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29.89% |
Pelletier and Cooley both get taken
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7.88% |
10-06-2024, 11:29 AM
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#21
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Gutsy move if it's true, but Conroy and co made it clear that spots weren't guaranteed. Pelts sadly didn't do anything to earn an opening day spot over Klapka, Honzek or Coronato. If he does get claimed I'll definitely miss his golden retriever personality and good vibes
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10-06-2024, 11:30 AM
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#22
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Nostradamus
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London Ont.
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Earn the damn job then! I don’t like the message that it would have sent to either Klapka or Honzig after they went out and did what the team asked. I hope he clears, but if not it’s on him!
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10-06-2024, 11:33 AM
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#23
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I would say there is about a 90% he clears.
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I'd say closer to zero. Montreal will pick him up
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10-06-2024, 11:33 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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We have a silly over-filled group of forwards.
There's some risk in this decision, but I'm not really sure how much. Pelletier was a later 1st round pick with no real standout skill, and as an undersized player...I certainly haven't seen anything that makes him stand out.
That aside, it's still silly that we have the group of forwards we do and we're picking some of those players over the youth and (limited?) upside of Pelletier.
Kevin Rooney is a non-factor in the long-term outlook of this team. Even if you go back to free agency, Mantha and Lomberg were signed to what end? Should have been another spot for a young player.
This move strikes me as the Flames overvaluing this idea of being 'competitive' every night at the expense of growing a team from the ground up. Losing a couple more games a year isn't going to nuke the 'culture', but winning a few more games will nuke the potential that the end state of this roster actually carries.
Pelletier? Likely an inconsequential player...but no more inconsequential than some of the other riff raff this bloated roster is carrying, so it's a bummer to see them side with a Rooney rather than a Pelletier.
Last edited by ComixZone; 10-06-2024 at 11:38 AM.
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10-06-2024, 11:33 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Gutsy move if it's true, but Conroy and co made it clear that spots weren't guaranteed. Pelts sadly didn't do anything to earn an opening day spot over Klapka, Honzek or Coronato. If he does get claimed I'll definitely miss his golden retriever personality and good vibes
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Klapka could be the next Walker Duehr if it turns out for him, or Connor Mackey. You don’t let guys like that slip through your fingers.
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10-06-2024, 11:34 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Flames first round pick doesn’t pan out. News at 11.
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Flames give up on prospect too early, news at 11.
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10-06-2024, 11:34 AM
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#27
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So can we assume that Sharangovich isn't hurt badly? Otherwise they could have just kept Pelletier up right?
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10-06-2024, 11:34 AM
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#28
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First Line Centre
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@royle9, why would they do this instead of taking a late round pick for him? Getting something for a player. > losing a player for nothing
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10-06-2024, 11:37 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Toonage
So can we assume that Sharangovich isn't hurt badly? Otherwise they could have just kept Pelletier up right?
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Next option would be Honzek, if he is hurt IMO
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10-06-2024, 11:38 AM
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#30
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Originally Posted by The Original FFIV
@royle9, why would they do this instead of taking a late round pick for him? Getting something for a player. > losing a player for nothing
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I’m sure they would have if they could have swung a deal in a short timeframe. However, the team on the other end is likely one of few teams who could put a claim in on a waiver…. And they would know that’s why you’re moving him.
Most teams would have to put a separate player through waivers to accept this trade.
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10-06-2024, 11:41 AM
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#31
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I like Pelts but he didn't really earn a roster spot. I don't think it's bad asset management , it's just the end result of how camp shook down. If he gets claimed I'm okay with it, the Flames are stuffed to the gills with good winger prospects that will constantly putting a player like Pelts on the bubble over the next 2 or 3 seasons.
Ultimately, it's on Pelts to earn a spot and he didn't.
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10-06-2024, 11:42 AM
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#32
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by FBI
Flames give up on prospect too early, news at 11.
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Gave up on Fata, Tkaczuk, Chucko, Pelech, Irving, Nemisz, (Erixon), Baertschi, Jankowski, Poirier, Klimchuk, and Valimaki too early.
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10-06-2024, 11:42 AM
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#33
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Originally Posted by The Original FFIV
@royle9, why would they do this instead of taking a late round pick for him? Getting something for a player. > losing a player for nothing
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Obviously they were offered a pick and decided to take nothing instead
It’s not like other GMs have no clue what’s going on around the league. It had to be known that he was passed on the depth chart here and there wasn’t room for him on the big club anymore.
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10-06-2024, 11:43 AM
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#34
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I would say there is about a 90% he clears.
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I would be surprised Montreal doesn’t put in a claim. Liane’s out long term. The kids French Canadian. Looking at their lineup he looks to be favourable compared to Emil Hienemen, I’d say.
Low risk high reward. SJ, Chicago, Columbus, Anaheim. Only takes one of these teams to say ‘sure, we’ll roll the dice’.
I’d say it’s a hell of a lot closer to 50/50 he gets claimed and if he doesn’t that shows what his stock is around the league and all these posters paddling on about ‘assets management’ don’t really know what they’re talking about.
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10-06-2024, 11:44 AM
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#35
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First Line Centre
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The guy had an injury riddled season and we are writing him off because he hasn't bounced back in one pre-season. I can't see the harm in sending Honzek down to give Pelletier a good run if games to see if he gets back on track.
Maybe he never makes it, but this is not a Matthew Phillips situation where he guy has been a pro for many years and the org really knew what they had.
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10-06-2024, 11:44 AM
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#36
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Gave up on Fata, Tkaczuk, Chucko, Pelech, Irving, Nemisz, (Erixon), Baertschi, Jankowski, Poirier, Klimchuk, and Valimaki too early.
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How many of those did they get 0 assets back for? I think Fata and Daniel were concussion issues IIRC.
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10-06-2024, 11:44 AM
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#37
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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If Pelletier had not been a first round pick would this be big news? 6 years since he was drafted and he's yet to earn a spot on what's at best a submediocre team. He's a replacement level player with a brand name that makes him bad value.
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10-06-2024, 11:45 AM
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#38
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Lifetime In Suspension
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So he couldn’t crack the lineup on what’s likely the what, 28th place team in the league? Hard time getting worked up about this but I know we can do it if we try. Sucks for him but some time on the Wranglers should help him out
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10-06-2024, 11:45 AM
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#39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
Next option would be Honzek, if he is hurt IMO
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I think Honzek was staying regardless but if Sharangovich started the year on the IR they could have kept Pelletier and even Cooley.
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10-06-2024, 11:46 AM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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The list of wingers coming that'll be burying Pelts at future camps:
Misa
Gridin
Basha
Suniev
Stromgren
Coronato
Tough sledding for Pelts IMO.
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