Coronato is to me exactly like Mike Cammalleri. Look at his stats in thr AHL prior to becoming a NHLer
He exploded when he figured it out. I see Matty doing thr same . I said this from day 1 and as CBL would say he WILL become that beast...Guaranteed.
I like his attitude. I love he's worked his ass off with Fujita. It's just he seems like too nice a kid.
He needs the snarl that Cammy had. Iginla says to this day he had the best 1 timer of anyone he ever played with. That's a high f ing bar!!!
He's ours . He's working hard and that's all that matters . I hope it translates sooner than later but it is what it is.
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Coronato is to me exactly like Mike Cammalleri. Look at his stats in thr AHL prior to becoming a NHLer
He exploded when he figured it out. I see Matty doing thr same . I said this from day 1 and as CBL would say he WILL become that beast...Guaranteed.
I like his attitude. I love he's worked his ass off with Fujita. It's just he seems like too nice a kid.
He needs the snarl that Cammy had. Iginla says to this day he had the best 1 timer of anyone he ever played with. That's a high f ing bar!!!
He's ours . He's working hard and that's all that matters . I hope it translates sooner than later but it is what it is.
Coronato won the hardest shot competition apparently (I saw it on the FlamesTV stream the other night).
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I know there's no room, but I like Sammy Poulin. He's a hard-working power-forward with some size (6'2"), grit, and physicality. There's obviously a reason why he hasn't made the Pens, but I could see him fitting in to a team's bottom-6.
Still only 22.
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I know there's no room, but I like Sammy Poulin. He's a hard-working power-forward with some size (6'2"), grit, and physicality. There's obviously a reason why he hasn't made the Pens, but I could see him fitting in to a team's bottom-6.
Still only 22.
I thought Pelletier was better in the AHL(when healthy). He's definitely an interesting target, but I haven't seen him play in the NHL yet.
A former 1st rounder often gets the benefit of the doubt, even though I thought he was picked a bit early at #21, pretty sure he was projected to go in the late 1st, or early 2nd round that year.
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Yeah tough to see us adding when we have a guy like Pelletier.
I will still be annoyed if he's waived or traded for a 5th, you need to base it on more than 4-5 games in the preseason.
3 weeks ago people were calling Honzek a bust after 3 games in Penticton, how did that work out?
Let's look at Pelletier's entire career as a pro:
21-22: 62 points in 66 AHL games, 17th in AHL scoring, 3rd among U-22 players (no NHL games)
22-23: 37 points in 35 AHL games, 1st among U22 AHLers in points per game (minimum 20GP)
7 points in 24 NHL games
23-24: The dissapointing injury riddled season with 3 points in 13 NHL games, and 12 in 18 AHL games.
His AHL production was elite for his age group in both 21-22 and 22-23 , he was a big part of a great PK on those teams, and he's actually more heralded for his 200ft play than his offensive game. Before the injury last season he was better than both Zary and Pospisil at the AHL level when they played on those teams.
He had an injury set back, trading him or waiving him now would be ridiculous asset management. Even worse than the Valimaki decision.
Reminds me so much of people wanting to waive Backlund or thinking he would never be healthy or a full time NHLer when he was 22/23 years old.
I get wanting to keep Honzek and Klapka after good camps but you have to think about long term asset management and both those guys have waiver exemptions, you need to use that as a tool if possible.
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Yeah tough to see us adding when we have a guy like Pelletier.
I will still be annoyed if he's waived or traded for a 5th, you need to base it on more than 4-5 games in the preseason.
3 weeks ago people were calling Honzek a bust after 3 games in Penticton, how did that work out?
Let's look at Pelletier's entire career as a pro:
21-22: 62 points in 66 AHL games, 17th in AHL scoring, 3rd among U-22 players (no NHL games)
22-23: 37 points in 35 AHL games, 1st among U22 AHLers in points per game (minimum 20GP)
7 points in 24 NHL games
23-24: The dissapointing injury riddled season with 3 points in 13 NHL games, and 12 in 18 AHL games.
His AHL production was elite for his age group in both 21-22 and 22-23 , he was a big part of a great PK on those teams, and he's actually more heralded for his 200ft play than his offensive game. Before the injury last season he was better than both Zary and Pospisil at the AHL level when they played on those teams.
He had an injury set back, trading him or waiving him now would be ridiculous asset management. Even worse than the Valimaki decision.
Reminds me so much of people wanting to waive Backlund or thinking he would never be healthy or a full time NHLer when he was 22/23 years old.
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That guy had such a weird hate for Backlund. I've never been so happy to see someone proven wrong.
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Yeah tough to see us adding when we have a guy like Pelletier.
I will still be annoyed if he's waived or traded for a 5th, you need to base it on more than 4-5 games in the preseason.
3 weeks ago people were calling Honzek a bust after 3 games in Penticton, how did that work out?
Let's look at Pelletier's entire career as a pro:
21-22: 62 points in 66 AHL games, 17th in AHL scoring, 3rd among U-22 players (no NHL games)
22-23: 37 points in 35 AHL games, 1st among U22 AHLers in points per game (minimum 20GP)
7 points in 24 NHL games
23-24: The dissapointing injury riddled season with 3 points in 13 NHL games, and 12 in 18 AHL games.
His AHL production was elite for his age group in both 21-22 and 22-23 , he was a big part of a great PK on those teams, and he's actually more heralded for his 200ft play than his offensive game. Before the injury last season he was better than both Zary and Pospisil at the AHL level when they played on those teams.
He had an injury set back, trading him or waiving him now would be ridiculous asset management. Even worse than the Valimaki decision.
Reminds me so much of people wanting to waive Backlund or thinking he would never be healthy or a full time NHLer when he was 22/23 years old.
I get wanting to keep Honzek and Klapka after good camps but you have to think about long term asset management and both those guys have waiver exemptions, you need to use that as a tool if possible.
This is why the Mantha signing was confusing. Brought in at the expense of a young player who could potentially be lost for nothing, it doesn’t seem to me like a worthwhile gamble. Hopefully Mantha proves everyone wrong and has a good year/nets a good return. Mantha return + whatever Pelletier nets in a trade is the trade off.
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This is why the Mantha signing was confusing. Brought in at the expense of a young player who could potentially be lost for nothing, it doesn’t seem to me like a worthwhile gamble. Hopefully Mantha proves everyone wrong and has a good year/nets a good return. Mantha return + whatever Pelletier nets in a trade is the trade off.
Mantha isn't the reason they might waive Pelletier. Pelletier, and Honzek, are the reasons they might waive Pelletier.
And even though Honzek deserves to stay, all they have to do is send him down for now, until there is an injury (which might take one whole game). Sending him down to get ice time, with the understanding that he'll be right back up in short order, solves the problem.
This idea that a player needs to be on the opening night roster, as some sort of official score card, is misleading and pointless.
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Mantha isn't the reason they might waive Pelletier. Pelletier, and Honzek, are the reasons they might waive Pelletier.
And even though Honzek deserves to stay, all they have to do is send him down for now, until there is an injury (which might take one whole game). Sending him down to get ice time, with the understanding that he'll be right back up in short order, solves the problem.
This idea that a player needs to be on the opening night roster, as some sort of official score card, is misleading and pointless.
I agree that it's Pelletier's play that's to blame for the current predicament.
Even if he doesn't get waived, does he get a spot in the lineup? Or does he get popcorn duty? Based on his personality, I bet he would be absolutely miserable sitting.
I still think that his pace of play, and defensive awareness are ahead of Klapka. That's why I think he would be a better fit on the 4th line to start the year in games against faster teams.
Mantha isn't the reason they might waive Pelletier. Pelletier, and Honzek, are the reasons they might waive Pelletier.
And even though Honzek deserves to stay, all they have to do is send him down for now, until there is an injury (which might take one whole game). Sending him down to get ice time, with the understanding that he'll be right back up in short order, solves the problem.
This idea that a player needs to be on the opening night roster, as some sort of official score card, is misleading and pointless.
same thing happened with Zary last year. Good camp, but went to the AHL as the final cut ... but was back in no time and made sure they couldn't send him back down.
Honzek deserves to be on the NHL roster, but it won't be the end if he isn't on opening night. It's a long season, he'll get plenty of looks.
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Bear goes unclaimed. Colorado claimes Ludvig (bad news for Kylington?)
Other waivers today:
Oskar Dansk
TJ Tynan
Chris Wagner
Matt Kiersted
Connor Mackey
Josh Mahura
John Hayden
Kyle Capobianco
Emilio Petterson
Cam Hughes
Alex Petrovic
Magnus Hellberg
Kole Lind
Hunter Jones
Lots of former Flames hands.
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Reason: Hunter instead of Ben, apparently
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