2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

In response to Pierre LeBrun posing a Marner for Shesterkin trade:

I just don't see it. Marner is a small, one dimensional, playoff disappointing, overpaid, pending UFA, unimportant positioned winger. I think Leaf fans are greatly overestimating his trade value.

Shesterkin is the best goalie on the planet.

I don't think they have anywhere near equal value.

Like Oilers fans and media, Leafs supporters also think that every other team in the league wants to trade their best players for whoever they themselves are trying to get rid of.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

In response to Pierre LeBrun posing a Marner for Shesterkin trade:

I just don't see it. Marner is a small, one dimensional, playoff disappointing, overpaid, pending UFA, unimportant positioned winger. I think Leaf fans are greatly overestimating his trade value.

Shesterkin is the best goalie on the planet.

I don't think they have anywhere near equal value.

Yikes 12M a season for a goalie.

[sureLoss]

Swayman saga takes an interesting turn

https://twitter.com/user/status/1840888705877254151

[Paulie Walnuts]

Will they go back and ask for that and more or for a trade.

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

In response to Pierre LeBrun posing a Marner for Shesterkin trade:

I just don't see it. Marner is a small, one dimensional, playoff disappointing, overpaid, pending UFA, unimportant positioned winger. I think Leaf fans are greatly overestimating his trade value.

Shesterkin is the best goalie on the planet.

I don't think they have anywhere near equal value.

And even if Marner was worth Shesterkin... why would the Rangers trade their relatively young superstar goalie? It's not like they have someone who can come in and play in his stead. Their next best guy is a 38 year old Jonathan Quick.

[Ped]

Not that I think the trade would or should happen, but Shesterkin is a year older than Marner and is also UFA next summer. He wants to break the bank, and while the Rangers should be able to, one never knows.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

I believe you are correct. That would be quite the game of 3D chess, predicting exactly when a competing team would go from a contender to a lottery team without insider knowledge of their future plans.

I'm not sure it's about precisely predicting where that team's pick will be in three years but an unprotected pick has more value than a protected pick because it could fall in the theoretical protected zone.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Craig should have Kevyn Adams on speed dial. After the McLeod deal with the oil where he did some good charity work. This could be his niewy deal. Deal ras for one of those skilled forwards and get that elusive difference maker. Help Buffalo make playoffs and set us up nicely.

Doubt Buffalo is looking at making changes to their D.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Doubt Buffalo is looking at making changes to their D.

I've seen the rationale for them possibly wanting Andersson is because they're loaded on the left side but lacking in quality RH Dmen.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

And even if Marner was worth Shesterkin... why would the Rangers trade their relatively young superstar goalie? It's not like they have someone who can come in and play in his stead. Their next best guy is a 38 year old Jonathan Quick.

Yeah, that's the most confusing part to me; even if the values were even (and they're definitely not), there's noone to step into Shesterkin's spot. The Rangers are in a window where they could potentially win a cup, and they're going to trade their superstar goalie for a one dimensional winger because...reasons.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Swayman saga takes an interesting turn

https://twitter.com/user/status/1840888705877254151

How this GM bungled 2 starters into none is just wild. It’s beyond a fireable offence, so I at least expect that.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Swayman saga takes an interesting turn

https://twitter.com/user/status/1840888705877254151

What are the Bruins doing?
They’ve traded their option and if this is true, they are in the process of screwing up the negotiations, in public none the less.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by D as in David

I've seen the rationale for them possibly wanting Andersson is because they're loaded on the left side but lacking in quality RH Dmen.

So who slides down to the bottom pair? Byram? Jokiharju? I’ve also read if therebb be is an issue with the Sabres D, it’s that they aren’t physical enough. If that’s true, not sure taking Clifton out the lineup makes sense. Is a LHD coming back? Andersson for Byram? Don’t think that makes sense from a Sabres perspective. Anderson has two years left. Byram’s 23 with years of control left.

Dahlin, Power, Samuelson all locked up and I’d be a bit surprised if Byram isn’t in their long term plans. Where does Anderson fit?

Not only where does Anderson fit but why? Do the Sabres need to upgrade their D? Wouldn’t they be better off addressing positions of need?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

What are the Bruins doing?
They’ve traded their option and if this is true, they are in the process of screwing up the negotiations, in public none the less.

Nonetheless.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Demko and a 1st for Swayman.

Swayman signs a 8 year extension with a 9M AAV and turns into their Huberdeau.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Nonetheless.

Oh yeah
That changes everything

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

I believe you are correct. That would be quite the game of 3D chess, predicting exactly when a competing team would go from a contender to a lottery team without insider knowledge of their future plans.

I think you can calculate some reasonable odds based on the age of a team's core and the state of their prospect pool. Just like there are some teams you can reasonably assume will be contender.

It's a gamble for sure, but if I had to bet, teams like Washington and Pittsburgh for example will be drafting earlier in 2027 than they will be in 2025.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Demko and a 1st for Swayman.

Swayman signs a 8 year extension with a 9M AAV and turns into their Huberdeau.

Demkos injury situation is alarming.
He’s quickly turning into damaged goods sadly.

[sharkov]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Demko and a 1st for Swayman.

Swayman signs a 8 year extension with a 9M AAV and turns into their Huberdeau.

Swaymann and a 1st for ullmark

[sureLoss]

Friedman says the best offer from the Bruins was probably $60-62 million over 8 years. Speculation is rampant that Swayman will ask for a trade.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...yman-standoff/