2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Is it just me, or is the Flyers' blogosphere way higher on Kolosov than his results warrant?

Tiny goaltenders with .900 save percentages don't just grow on trees!

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Is it just me, or is the Flyers' blogosphere way higher on Kolosov than his results warrant?

I suggested Okhotiuk for Kolosov on Flamesnation lol.

Yeah, I don't get it either. A goalie on the smaller side, drafted in the 3rd round, with mediocre stats in the minors, zero NHL games, soon to be 23 years old, and apparently they want at least a 2nd rounder for him.

I doubt many people outside of Philadelphia even heard of him before he started making the news for threatening to hold out.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

I don't understand why the Flames would be fishing for a Goalie right now, let's see what they have already.

It's a weird link with the NHL-level goalie questions right now, but they probably have been following the guy for a while as they've dipped into the Russian goalie pool pretty consistently at the draft since 2020, including Sergeev in Kolosov's draft year. They might like him a lot at the right price.

Interestingly, Kolosov was picked right after the Flames took Huckins in 2021. Waalstedt and Cossa went in the first round that year but then no goalie was taken until Kolosov.

The Flames may have figured since there were other goalies available that were ranked a little higher than Kolosov, and goalies hadn't started going yet, that they could wait until their second 3rd round pick to grab him. But then Kolosov was picked next and that kicked off a little bit of a goalie draft run.

This was also the first draft after Sigalet was promoted, so perhaps Sigalet has a particular bee in his bonnet around this goalie, and that they didn't take him in 2021, because Kolosov may have been Sigalet's guy at his first draft as the Director of Goaltending.

Lots of speculation, just like that they share the same agent stuff, but draft history is fascinating and likely has a good amount to do with future prospect trades when they happen.

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Tiny goaltenders with .900 save percentages don't just grow on trees!

…or at all! #Zing

[savardandjokinen]

Ducks name Radko Gudas their captain

[FlamesAddiction]

There is rumour that Ken "small hands" Holland has accepted a position with Utah HC.

[dammage79]

Oiler rumor is Bouchards ask is 11m aav

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Oiler rumor is Bouchards ask is 11m aav

So… if they keep everyone:

Bouchard + McDavid + Draisaitl + Nurse + Hyman = $56 million

$56 million in 5 guys. That’s without any other players signed. Yikes.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

Ducks name Radko Gudas their captain

Always wanted him to be a Flame. And just a rad ass name

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

There is rumour that Ken "small hands" Holland has accepted a position with Utah HC.

Ryan Smith is way too smart for this...Ryan Smith is way too smart for this... come on Ryan. NO!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Not sure if Seravelli was trolling Flames fans on Flames talk but he said he thinks the Flames will finish with 94-85 points (potentially as high as a 13 point improvement but an improvement for sure in that range).

I have a hard time seeing a team that sent out

Lindholm
Markstrom
Mangiapane
Hanifin
Tanev
Zadorov

And brought in the following guys to replace them

Kuzmenko
Mantha
Wolf
Bahl
Miromanov
Pachal

I have hard time seeing that team make such an improvement on last years result.

Lindholm, Zadorov, and Mangiapane were not good for the Flames last season

Hanifin and Tanev are the two names on that list that will not be replaced easily

[FanSince'01]

Originally Posted by stemit14

So… if they keep everyone:

Bouchard + McDavid + Draisaitl + Nurse + Hyman = $56 million

$56 million in 5 guys. That’s without any other players signed. Yikes.

Add in Nothing-Happens and Skinner, who let's say will come in at around $6 million for argument's sake as he's a decent, serviceable starting goalie whose stats will likely benefit from the team in front of him... that would bring it up to $67 million for 7 players in 26/27. Assuming the cap goes up to around $95 million by then, that would only leave them with $28 million for the other 14-15 players on their roster. Ouch.

They need to offload Nurse in the worst way, but even if they do manage that (good luck moving that contract without a massive add-in, btw), that only marginally improves their cap situation. It's quite amazing, really.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Lindholm, Zadorov, and Mangiapane were not good for the Flames last season

Hanifin and Tanev are the two names on that list that will not be replaced easily

Agree on most of that. I think Bahl can be that tough defensive presence with a stronger defensive game. If Barrie can show some kind of offensive flair and run powerplay 2 I would have no problem seeing a Bahl Barrie pairing. Let's each guy run with with what their strong suits are. If Huberdeau decides to play hockey and a healthy Kuzmenko can pop on the powerplay there will be a nice little pot of gold come trade deadline. I'm really digging the youth train right now also. These young guys aren't totally raw and just need that chance. Bean could be a really nice add also. I really like Andersson but hey, a spade is a spade and give him new scenery. Give Miromanov powerplay 1. Let's see what these have.

Side note: Get a young center for Andersson. Eat salary even for a good one on a contending team. Love Rasmus but this timeline isn't the one.

[albertGQ]

Sounds Dawson Mercer signed. 3 years at $4M per year

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by FanSince'01

Add in Nothing-Happens and Skinner, who let's say will come in at around $6 million for argument's sake as he's a decent, serviceable starting goalie whose stats will likely benefit from the team in front of him... that would bring it up to $67 million for 7 players in 26/27. Assuming the cap goes up to around $95 million by then, that would only leave them with $28 million for the other 14-15 players on their roster. Ouch.

They need to offload Nurse in the worst way, but even if they do manage that (good luck moving that contract without a massive add-in, btw), that only marginally improves their cap situation. It's quite amazing, really.

It amuses me that it seems like we have been talking about Nurse and his albatross contract forever. He is only in year 3 of 8 of that thing. His salary is 12M this year and 10M next year. Maybe in year 5 of that contract when his real salary is 2M less than the cap you might have a chance, but it will still cost you.

[Jiri Hrdina]

And if they offload Nurse, their already thin blueline is that much worse. And they have very little draft and prospect capital to use.

I also thought it was interesting to hear how unimpressive Savoie has been. A bit of cold water being thrown on the narrative that the Oilers acquired Buffalo's "top prospect".

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

There is rumour that Ken "small hands" Holland has accepted a position with Utah HC.

I wondered if Ken was popping up somewhere when his son, Brad who was an AGM of the Oilers, 'mutually parted ways' with Edmonton this week.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

And if they offload Nurse, their already thin blueline is that much worse. And they have very little draft and prospect capital to use.

I also thought it was interesting to hear how unimpressive Savoie has been. A bit of cold water being thrown on the narrative that the Oilers acquired Buffalo's "top prospect".

What's the chatter on Savoie?

[Wastedyouth]

And now Roby Jarventie who they got from Ottawa is missing camp with more knee issues.

That prospect base is.... uuuuuuuugly.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Bingo

What's the chatter on Savoie?

He just didn't do much in Penticton, so some Oiler fans were disappointed. That said, they're back on the Kool-Aid, comparing him to Stankoven, and saying he had a great first day in camp.