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Old 09-16-2024, 09:15 AM   #1181
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I can’t think of who is top but this my guess for top 10

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You've got 9 of the 10. Only one you have incorrect is Pepple (he had 6). And Bevan had 19, tied for second.
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Old 09-16-2024, 11:45 AM   #1182
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Cavalry Trivia time!

Can you name the top ten goal scorers in Cavalry FC history across all competitions (excluding friendlies)? Top of the list has 22 goals, number 10 has 8 if that helps at all.
Going by memory....

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Old 09-16-2024, 12:20 PM   #1183
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Pretty damn good. Malonga is ahead of Escalante but otherwise spot on.

Camargo - 22
Bevan & Musse - 19
Mason & Klomp - 17
Malonga - 13
Escalante - 9
Minatel & Brown & Warschewski - 8

Camargo is the only player to score in every season. Malonga's 13 goals in the 2019 season is the highest single season total.
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I had no recollection of Minatel scoring that many goals in 2019

Wonder how our top scorer compares to other teams? I’d guess it’s not too different other than ours has played every year
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Old 09-17-2024, 12:24 PM   #1186
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Latest attendance figures. Cavalry are up 2% over last year.

It's funny. Every year there are supposedly more and more reasons why people should stay away from Cavalry games (stadium location, high ticket prices, lack of transit options), and every year their attendances grow. Think this club is really starting to catch on.

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Old 09-17-2024, 12:43 PM   #1187
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Latest attendance figures. Cavalry are up 2% over last year.

It's funny. Every year there are supposedly more and more reasons why people should stay away from Cavalry games (stadium location, high ticket prices, lack of transit options), and every year their attendances grow. Think this club is really starting to catch on.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1835725868779601933
It's a fun experience and when it's only once a week you can justify going out there.

It's funny because sometimes Spruce Meadows almost makes it feel like you're travelling to a little European town to watch a football game.

I'm not sure of the politics behind it but I can't believe Wild FC choose to go to McMahon stadium instead of trying to play at Atco field.
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With the ring road, the free parking, the tail gating, the beautiful weather there are so many reasons to let a game take all afternoon.
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Old 09-17-2024, 01:06 PM   #1189
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It's a fun experience and when it's only once a week you can justify going out there.

It's funny because sometimes Spruce Meadows almost makes it feel like you're travelling to a little European town to watch a football game.

I'm not sure of the politics behind it but I can't believe Wild FC choose to go to McMahon stadium instead of trying to play at Atco field.
The Wild wanted to play at Spruce Meadows. Spruce Meadows wanted a significant fee to rent the stadium; I've heard it was 7 figures annually.

I speculate that Spruce Meadows didn't want an additional tenant and asked for a fee they knew the Wild couldn't afford. They already struggle to maintain that pitch outside of the big equestrian events.
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The Wild wanted to play at Spruce Meadows. Spruce Meadows wanted a significant fee to rent the stadium; I've heard it was 7 figures annually.

I speculate that Spruce Meadows didn't want an additional tenant and asked for a fee they knew the Wild couldn't afford. They already struggle to maintain that pitch outside of the big equestrian events.
That makes more sense.

This city really needs to figure out how we improve on McMahon stadium.

Don't need anything too crazy - a 30k seat stadium that could host Football / Soccer and be similar to BMO field / Mosaic Stadium would be perfect for this city.

What would that cost in 2024...maybe $350M. (Mosaic: $278M in 2014, BMO: $200M including initial build and 2016 expansion).

Honestly wish it was still included as part of the overall arena discussion because I think that's the only way it would have happened.

Spend $1.5M instead of the $1.2M we are spending on the Arena and probably could have gotten both, instead of all the provincial/city funding going to the arena which really the Flames should have paid a bigger share of.

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Old 09-17-2024, 01:29 PM   #1191
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I still think a new 10,000 seat outdoor soccer-specific stadium at the Currie Barracks lands, funded by ATCO, would be the best long-term solution and location for the Cavs as they continue to grow. Close to ATCO's headquarters, MUCH more centrally-located, next to Crowchild Trail, and Glenmore Trail and the Ring Road nearby as well.

Although with the future Foothills Fieldhouse (which there is currently movement on), and (a little birdie told me of) rumours of a possible new stadium at the U of C, there may be future alternative options to consider as well.
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I was critical of the location initially - until I went there for the first time. We've got deep-pocketed owners with a bunch of land and infrastructure in place. It all makes sense. You just can't get those facilities or vibe anywhere else in this city.

The location is absolutely still a factor in whether some people can attend, and it always will be. The distance and lack of transit connection excludes a potentially massive soccer-loving demographic in the NE, for example. But to use an overused phrase: it is what it is. I am thankful that our club isn't playing in a football stadium, plays on real grass, and that the owners are leveraging what they already have. We're lucky.

Ring road helps a lot for NW people like me, but I'd still come if Stoney didn't exist. Once people experience it, the commute matters a lot less because you know how good the setting is when you get there.

And I'll give the club credit for finally ditching the paid parking. It was an unnecessary money grab for a captive audience, and the worst part was it created a tonne of delays for people trying to get to the games. Sure, I can afford the $10 and would still pay it if I had to, but the lines and delays were annoying. Especially at the start of every season when they somehow had to re-learn how to do it, train their new security contractor, etc. So they've fixed that - credit where due.

I still feel that we'd be averaging 5000 or even 5500 if ticket prices were brought down a bit, particularly on the top end. Lower price would actually mean more revenue, a larger fan base, etc. But that's a dead horse that they seem OK with, and we're still pretty fortunate to have this facility and its owners.
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For me, the location is why I love to go. Something in the heart of the city would 100% be a bigger pain in the ass.
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For me, the location is why I love to go. Something in the heart of the city would 100% be a bigger pain in the ass.
I absolutely love the vibe of Spruce Meadows, best 'stadium feel' in the league IMO.. but if the location was more central, I'd be all over that in a hot minute, and I'm sure most fans would be too.
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Yep, and you want to be close to students/young adults as much as possible. The ticket prices are good, and it's a young league with MRU talent being connected to the team. Being next to MRU would be a huge boon, in addition to the densification of the general area. Currie Barracks would be fantastic.

A similar debate is going on with York where York U is a sucky location. I have suggested in the past that Downsview would be a great location due to it being on the 401 and Allen Road, and also close to the TFC training grounds. But that's me as an armchair developer and football enthusiast.
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Every time a central stadium is brought up, I'm reminded of the phrase "don't let perfect be the enemy of good".

Central stadiums are a great idea until someone actually has to pay for it. Unfortunately these clubs aren't vanity projects where billionaires will light money on fire to build the best club, and Cavalry doesn't have the sway the Flames do with council to bend over a city. Simply put, a central stadium is not going to get built.

Spruce Meadows is not perfect but we have a club that is growing every year in a stadium that is the best in the league. For a club and league who's biggest priority is simply continuing to exist it's as good as we could have expected 6 years in.
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Sure, but a central-ish stadium / competitive turf infrastructure (not necessarily a stadium only for Cavalry) is very much within the discourse of our city boundaries; I know this for fact. I don't think I'd ever definitely state "simply put, a central stadium is not going to get built".
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A central stadium, or anything with the city limits, would need: a willing partner in the City of Calgary, funding, multiple tenants, a community angle, CSEC, U of C, etc.

I just don't think enough of those things line up right now. Maybe they will one day, but even if they do, I'm not sure that Cavalry will be in a rush to leave their own facility for one that is shared and rented.

I'll settle for FIFA-approved turf at McMahon for Concacaf matches in February. Anything else is a bonus at this point.

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Every time a central stadium is brought up, I'm reminded of the phrase "don't let perfect be the enemy of good".
Yup, I've definitely had to be quite pragmatic. Although developing a suburban/exurban stadium goes against a lot of the lessons learned in city planning over the last half century, financial viability is also a crucial consideration. In this regard, Spruce Meadows put the Southern family miles ahead of any other high-quality and fully privately-funded operation.


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Sure, but a central-ish stadium / competitive turf infrastructure (not necessarily a stadium only for Cavalry) is very much within the discourse of our city boundaries; I know this for fact. I don't think I'd ever definitely state "simply put, a central stadium is not going to get built".
In addition to financial viability, value engineering is also a key consideration. If we could overcome the odds and get a 10,000 capacity central stadium project off the ground, how nice of a stadium would be delivered after a few inevitable rounds of value engineering?

It's not a definite 'no' and I like to dream. However, seeing the Green Line go up in flames doesn't instill much confidence.
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I know there are plans for a redevelopment of Shouldice/Hellard field in the future. I would say Cavalry has outgrown that space but I think that would be a great venue for the Wild over McMahon if they get get a ~4000 seat stadium there. I’ve said it before that I’m surprised the Wild didn’t pursue that route already. Get some temporary bleachers on the other side, some turf upgrade and you’re now the big dog in a much better sized stadium. Partner with the Colts and get them to chip in for some of the costs too. Ah well. Maybe in the future
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