09-11-2024, 07:45 AM
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#20741
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"The great promise of the Internet was that more information would automatically yield better decisions. The great disappointment is that more information actually yields more possibilities to confirm what you already believed anyway." - Brian Eno
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09-11-2024, 07:54 AM
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#20742
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Will be fun. About to go to work with a huge Republican supporter. Not a deplorable but definitely a Trumper. Will be interesting to see/hear the spin.
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09-11-2024, 08:05 AM
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#20743
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Over the hill
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Will be fun. About to go to work with a huge Republican supporter. Not a deplorable but definitely a Trumper. Will be interesting to see/hear the spin.
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Get ready to hear all about how unfair the moderators were, and how it was “3 on 1”. Which is definitely the kind of thing “winners” say.
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09-11-2024, 08:11 AM
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#20744
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
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People are entirely too much online.
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It's the Law of E=NG. If there was an Edmonton on Mars, it would stink like Uranus.
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09-11-2024, 08:12 AM
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#20745
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Will be fun. About to go to work with a huge Republican supporter. Not a deplorable but definitely a Trumper. Will be interesting to see/hear the spin.
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They'll just blame the moderator, most likely, and say that she seems fake.
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"The great promise of the Internet was that more information would automatically yield better decisions. The great disappointment is that more information actually yields more possibilities to confirm what you already believed anyway." - Brian Eno
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09-11-2024, 08:14 AM
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#20746
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
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"I'm doing great in the polls. Polls numbers that have never been seen before. They'll have to create new numbers with how high I am scoring in the polls"
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09-11-2024, 08:23 AM
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#20747
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Scoring Winger
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I don't know how anyone could watch that debate and think that they could possibly vote for Trump.
At the same time, I'm not sure why no one is criticizing Harris here. Every time Trump opened his mouth, it was just straight lies, but Harris wasn't too far off. She said some downright stupid and misleading things herself.
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09-11-2024, 08:26 AM
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#20748
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Looooooooooooooch
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The newest conspiracy is that Kamala's earrings during the debates look awfully similar to some fancy earrings that have built in mic.
She was obviously being fed every single line.
Wake up sheeple!
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09-11-2024, 08:31 AM
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#20749
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePrince
I don't know how anyone could watch that debate and think that they could possibly vote for Trump.
At the same time, I'm not sure why no one is criticizing Harris here. Every time Trump opened his mouth, it was just straight lies, but Harris wasn't too far off. She said some downright stupid and misleading things herself.
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What were some of those examples? I thought Harris's content was mostly pretty solid.
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09-11-2024, 08:32 AM
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#20750
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan
Get ready to hear all about how unfair the moderators were, and how it was “3 on 1”. Which is definitely the kind of thing “winners” say.
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Just show them this.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1833708710813745610
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09-11-2024, 08:34 AM
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#20751
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by nfotiu
What were some of those examples? I thought Harris's content was mostly pretty solid.
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She definitely fumbled when Trump asked which month she would support abortions up to. That's an obvious one to prepare for, and she seemed totally broadsided by it.
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09-11-2024, 08:49 AM
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#20752
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
She definitely fumbled when Trump asked which month she would support abortions up to. That's an obvious one to prepare for, and she seemed totally broadsided by it.
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What is a good answer to that question? I think she replied she supported what Roe v Wade protected, which seems fine.
Any limit is problematic for women and Doctors, but saying there shouldn't be a limit is a problem politically.
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09-11-2024, 08:51 AM
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#20753
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
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LOL her reactions while Trump went off were so awesome. You can see her eyes light up as she realizes that her trap worked as she and her team predicted it would.
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09-11-2024, 08:52 AM
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#20754
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by ThePrince
Every time Trump opened his mouth, it was just straight lies, but Harris wasn't too far off.
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source required. Every fact check count I've seen wasn't remotely in the same ballpark.
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09-11-2024, 08:54 AM
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#20755
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Lol Musk offered to impregnate Taylor Swift after her endorsement.
Definitely not weird at all.
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09-11-2024, 08:55 AM
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#20756
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
They'll just blame the moderator, most likely, and say that she seems fake.
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There's a lot of ways to spin it. I just listened to the NYT podcast The Daily, which really was another masterclass at subtle spin doctoring.
Basically their storyline is that, yes Harris won etc. but the way they frame it is: "She basically avoided answering any substantive questions about her own policy backflips, about her association with Biden, she went on offense and managed to catch Trump in a trap in pretty much every question, in basically every answer she embedded something in there, a sentence or a line that unravelled Trump and got him on an angry tear."
"When you look at the debate overall, he was fine for the first 15 minutes, he was angry and unravelling for the middle 40 at least, and sort of got his footing back at the end. There will be a lot of analysis saying how catastrophic it was...
"Really, they’ll Use that word?" (In a surprised voice)
"...I don't see it quite like that, I see it as a huge missed opportunity for Trump, this was his chance to define Kamala Harris... So it was a huge missed opportunity for Trump..."
"She passed that minimum test that she needed to present herself as a plausible (seriously they kept saying that's a thing she needs to prove, wtf NYT?) president" while he just "missed the opportunity to define her as a radical leftist, as someone who owns every (strong emphasis on that word) of the Biden record that you don't like." And that's where they end the analysis.
*slow clap* That is frankly brilliant work. Admit the defeat, but frame the win as "she managed to trap him with words, it was a minimum win for her, for him it was a missed opportunity for a potential win, and oh she's a radical leftist and is responsible for everything hate." (But we didn't say that exactly).
And this is how Trump is still in the race.
Last edited by Itse; 09-11-2024 at 09:01 AM.
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09-11-2024, 09:00 AM
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#20757
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Looooooooooooooch
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Originally Posted by photon
Lol Musk offered to impregnate Taylor Swift after her endorsement.
Definitely not weird at all.
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I half expected him to post an AI generated image of them together or something.
Guy is ####ing icky as ####.
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09-11-2024, 09:01 AM
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#20758
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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09-11-2024, 09:03 AM
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#20759
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by nfotiu
What is a good answer to that question? I think she replied she supported what Roe v Wade protected, which seems fine.
Any limit is problematic for women and Doctors, but saying there shouldn't be a limit is a problem politically.
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I don't know a good answer to that question, but the way she fumbled showed it hadn't been considered. It is a hard question to answer specifically because their is a lot of nuance, and not one to be tackled in a 10 seconds. I'm not saying it was a deal breaker or massive mistake, it was just surprising she didn't have a way to move on smoothly. Instead it looked like a point for Trump that she didn't need to give.
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09-11-2024, 09:04 AM
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#20760
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Itse
There's a lot of ways to spin it. I just listened to the NYT podcast The Daily, which really was another masterclass at subtle spin doctoring.
Basically their storyline is that, yes Harris won etc. but the way they frame it is: "She basically avoided answering any substantive questions about her own policy backflips, about her association with Biden, she went on offense and managed to catch Trump in a trap in pretty much every question, in basically every answer she embedded something in there, a sentence or a line that unravelled Trump and got him on an angry tear."
"When you look at the debate overall, he was fine for the first 15 minutes, he was angry and unravelling for the middle 40 at least, and sort of got his footing back at the end. There will be a lot of analysis saying how catastrophic it was...
"Really, they’ll Use that word?" (In a surprised voice)
"...I don't see it quite like that, I see it as a huge missed opportunity for Trump, this was his chance to define Kamala Harris... So it was a huge missed opportunity for Trump..."
"She passed that minimum test that she needed to present herself as a plausible (seriously they kept saying that's a thing she needs to prove, wtf NYT?) president" while he just "missed the opportunity to define her as a radical leftist, as someone who owns every (strong emphasis on that word) of the Biden record that you don't like." And that's where they end the analysis.
*slow clap* That is frankly brilliant work. Admit the defeat, but frame the win as "she managed to trap him with words, it was a minimum win for her, for him it was a missed opportunity for a potential win, and oh she's a radical leftist and is responsible for everything hate." (But we didn't say that exactly).
And this is how Trump is still in the race.
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Sure, I guess. Media just keeping the race open for ratings.
Kamala went on the offense like she should have and hit Trump where it hurts, his ego. Why does Kamala say anything substantive if Trump doesn't?
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