[Signing] Oilers extend F Leon Draisaitl (8x$14M AAV)

[butterfly]

They are betting that Draisaitl ages like Kopitar or Crosby, and very few players do. And both of them are, you know, responsible in their own zone.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by butterfly

They are betting that Draisaitl ages like Kopitar or Crosby, and very few players do. And both of them are, you know, responsible in their own zone.

And can skate.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by chedder

And can skate.

and already won cups

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by EDMONTONisNG

Another dumb move by an incompetent management group. I suddenly feel great about the Huberdeau contract. We just have to tune out the Draisatl and McDavid show for a few more years and then finally live in peace.

Let's not get carried away. The Huberdeau contract is league worst or at least a top 3 contender.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He put his big years from his age 23-27 years and probably peaked with the 128 point season.

He was down 22 points last year, and half way through the playoffs he was invisible.

That is the beauty of of this deal. Like with Huberdeau signing long term contracts at this age for this type of money is usually for past performance.

The fact the Oilers wasted that type of production for that cap hit is hilarious.

It's going to get worse too.

Players aren't giving discounts after losing big money during COVID. Cap also probably should be much higher but there is an escalator clause of 5%.

Faber got $8 mil - 22 and 47 point rookie year
Jarvis got $8 mil - 22 and 67 points
Berniers got $7 mil - 21 and 37 points (57 rookie year)
Swayman wants $10 mil never played 50 games in a season(likely gets less tha $10 mil)

What will Bouchard get? It's possible with the playoffs he had and the regular season he could as for $12 mil. Doubt it goes that high, but it will be north of Nurse and likely $10.5 or more.

Detroit won the cup in 08 with Lidstrom, Rafalski and Datsyuk making just over 40% of the cap. Not sure if any other team has done that with 3 players making that much.

If the cap hits $92.5 mil next year, Bouchard, McDavid and Leon will be making at least 40% (assuming $10.5 mil for Bouchard). Add Campbell buyout and Nurse and it's 52.5%. You need some impact ELC's to manage this.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Ferarri

Let's not get carried away. The Huberdeau contract is league worst or at least a top 3 contender.

Ignore it. That account is always passive aggressively badmouthing the Flames.

[SuperMatt18]

The biggest mistake the Oilers might have made is they traded the guys they needed to help bridge the gap once the stars got raises (Mcleod, Holloway, Broberg), and instead gave short term contracts to aging vets.

Oilers window would look a lot better if they gave McLeod, Holloway, and Broberg some longer term deals that could be seen as an underpay in 2-3 seasons.

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

It's going to get worse too.

Players aren't giving discounts after losing big money during COVID. Cap also probably should be much higher but there is an escalator clause of 5%.

Faber got $8 mil - 22 and 47 point rookie year
Jarvis got $8 mil - 22 and 67 points
Berniers got $7 mil - 21 and 37 points (57 rookie year)
Swayman wants $10 mil never played 50 games in a season(likely gets less tha $10 mil)

What will Bouchard get? It's possible with the playoffs he had and the regular season he could as for $12 mil. Doubt it goes that high, but it will be north of Nurse and likely $10.5 or more.

Detroit won the cup in 08 with Lidstrom, Rafalski and Datsyuk making just over 40% of the cap. Not sure if any other team has done that with 3 players making that much.

If the cap hits $92.5 mil next year, Bouchard, McDavid and Leon will be making at least 40% (assuming $10.5 mil for Bouchard). Add Campbell buyout and Nurse and it's 52.5%. You need some impact ELC's to manage this.

NHL's strategy is clear. Expansion...there are no NHL teams in Houston, Atlanta, Phoenix, and Cleveland that have MLB teams, and NBA teams. Orlando, Sacramento, San Antonio and Memphis all have NBA teams but no NHL team.

At $2bn per new team, the current owners have a plan. With the expansion rules re-done after Vegas, the new teams have been accretive to HRR. It can't go forever, but that won't stop them for running this plan out for the rest of the decade.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Skinner-Draisaitl-Arvidsson

They actually brought in legitimate top 6 wingers so maybe for the first time ever, they can actually separate McDrai for a prolonged period of time.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The biggest mistake the Oilers might have made is they traded the guys they needed to help bridge the gap once the stars got raises (Mcleod, Holloway, Broberg), and instead gave short term contracts to aging vets.

Oilers window would look a lot better if they gave McLeod, Holloway, and Broberg some longer term deals that could be seen as an underpay in 2-3 seasons.

That's the biggest thing. Plus this massive contracts don't allow you bring another larger piece to help.

You need to go bargin bin shopping in free agency for old vets. You have no pieces pushing into the lineup, your best trade chips you don't trade.

It actually seems like the better option would have been to trade him, and replenish your team.

Teams built through free agency don't win. This is exactly how Edmonton is built, a bit similar to Nashville.

[Robbob]

I think the old adage is that a player should get you 10 points per 1M. In the cap world I think you can probably set the expectation at 10 points per % of the cap as it continues to climb. This contract has him at close to 16% of the cap hit.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by EDMONTONisNG

Another dumb move by an incompetent management group. I suddenly feel great about the Huberdeau contract. We just have to tune out the Draisatl and McDavid show for a few more years and then finally live in peace.

I'm not sure how you can feel better about that contract.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by chedder

And can skate.

Draisaitl is fast as hell, just lazy.

[Calgary]

I didn't see this coming. That's some big money. McDavid has to stay now you would think?

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

How do you construct a winner when the best two players force the team to overpay and take as much money for themselves without regard for teammates and their contributions?

Oh ya...and Nurse is one of the "core four"?!!

Have any teams had their top 2 players take discounts that are impactful enough so their GM could add around them? I can't think of any.

[dino7c]

The Panthers signed their #1 dman and their top goal scorer for 14M total

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by dino7c

This is why I keep posting because I can't fathom somebody whos not an Oiler fanboy not seeing this. They came close one time with McDrai in their prime and on bargain contracts. When they are at max contracts and older the team won't be better lol. They have nothing coming to shore things up any depth will be UFA....league min guys with their cap.

Its not a homer take these guys are DONE after this season and especially after 2. Forget the cup in 2 years they will be middling let alone 4 or 5 years. Source? they were already middling before adding a bit of depth (which is really old)

And it took a playoff planet alignment for that to happen.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The biggest mistake the Oilers might have made is they traded the guys they needed to help bridge the gap once the stars got raises (Mcleod, Holloway, Broberg), and instead gave short term contracts to aging vets.

Oilers window would look a lot better if they gave McLeod, Holloway, and Broberg some longer term deals that could be seen as an underpay in 2-3 seasons.

Precisely.

[Bourque's Twin]

McDavid will probably stay and sign for 8x16. Bouchard is at least 10.

Nurse’s buyout is too cumbersome. They should trade him plus multiple 1sts to get rid of the contract if they want any chance at building any team around the core. Skinner will get a big raise too if he can play well (not sure he will).

[All In Good Time]

ok
now you gotta think there is a better chance that they will extend McDavid too now
Wonder what the cap will be the year that extension would kick in.
Hes going to have to get at least 16 and Bouchard with 10...with the contracts that they currently have on the books for that year, the total hit will be 65M........with 15 other contracts to sign