[Signing] Oilers extend F Leon Draisaitl (8x$14M AAV)

[Phaneuf_Phan]

This should help Huberdeau as his pay is now small compared to Draisaitl, no more pressure.

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by DinnerDog

I mean sure, but I highly doubt both Hyman and Skinner will be PPG players, given only one of them can play with McD and Drai. Somethings gotta give. I don't think they're just adding Skinner's / Arvidsson's production without any decline elsewhere on the roster, there's only so many points to go around imo.

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Skinner-Draisaitl-Arvidsson

They actually brought in legitimate top 6 wingers so maybe for the first time ever, they can actually separate McDrai for a prolonged period of time.

Also improves the team's 2nd PP unit. Arvidsson will help the PK as well.

[Radio]

Originally Posted by Gundo

As a flames fan I’m incredibly jealous that very able to sign such an amazing player and keep him with the team, hoping to keep their core intact.

And as a flames fan, I’m also incredibly Optimistic that the current era of the flames we are going to be going through is similar to the Oilers era in which Leon was drafted and there is light at the end of the tunnel similar to the Oilers are now experiencing.

I am suspicious of your true allegiance... Flames are always lowercase while oilers are always uppercase.

[EVERLAST]

Havent seen it mentioned but what " Leader " doesn't take a discount to surround himself with better players unselfishly?

This is hilarious. They have guys getting so massively overpaid for what they actually contribute and wonder ...or will wonder ....why they are so bad.

You have the worst players in the league on your roster by reputation.
Now youve pushed all your chips in and are going for it .

Really?

They had the easiest path to a cup final ive ever seen and think somehow they'll pull a Florida in back to back year's and come out on top .

Yup. Oh boy. I just don't see it. But as mentioned its good to see players get paid in Canada .

With so much promise upcoming for the Flames i truly hope we stay the path and dont go complete F tard here and just continue getting better .

Our culture is changing and all i really truly want is consistency. Id take playoffs yearly with an always competitive team where guys want to play over playing where its guaranteed payday for the least amount of GAF .

To me . Thats what the oilers are , have been, and always will be since the glory days ....but they know something about winning still right?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Robbob

Draisaitl obviously would be dumb not to take the money. If he went to FA he would have to be offered 16M a season over 7 years. That would also include the risk of potential injury that could kybosh a lot of that. As he said, he is doing what is best for him. I still think McDavid isn't a sure thing, even with this signing. That path to Toronto is there, so I can see him being conflicted in one years time. At the end of the Day, Draisaitl can always ask for a trade if McDavid leaves as he is always looking out for number 1.

The scorn from their fickle fans and media when he's 38 and eating up that cap hit isn't worth the difference.

They'll turn on him by the midway mark, I'd reckon.

[Reggie Dunlop]

I see.

[konradical]

Draisaitl will be a great player even at the end of his contract. He might not be worth the money at the end but he will still be a great player in his 30s. The Oilers also dont care. They lock up Drai, McDavid and Bouchard and they will be able to contend for the next 7 years.

Draisaitl and McDavid are just too good of players to not be worth extending even if at the end the contacts might suck. They have at least 5 more elite years of Draisaitl and he will be still great in 8

[looooob]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Also improves the team's 2nd PP unit. .

the what now?


and re Arvidsson and the PK- believe he has played a total of 5 PK minutes in the last 3 years.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Sidney Crosby who is a far better player last up 100 points when he was 31.

He has still been great a PPG player, but how many 100 point seasons do you see Draisaitl getting in his 30's?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Sidney Crosby who is a far better player last up 100 points when he was 31.

He has still been great a PPG player, but how many 100 point seasons do you see Draisaitl getting in his 30's?

Is he playing with Connor McDavid? If so, several, I’d say.

[dustygoon]

How do you construct a winner when the best two players force the team to overpay and take as much money for themselves without regard for teammates and their contributions?

Oh ya...and Nurse is one of the "core four"?!!

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by konradical

Draisaitl will be a great player even at the end of his contract. He might not be worth the money at the end but he will still be a great player in his 30s. The Oilers also dont care. They lock up Drai, McDavid and Bouchard and they will be able to contend for the next 7 years.

Draisaitl and McDavid are just too good of players to not be worth extending even if at the end the contacts might suck. They have at least 5 more elite years of Draisaitl and he will be still great in 8

They should be doing whatever to resign them, but it does not change that the supporting cast is old, they have bad contracts and buyouts crippling what they can do around these guys.

It all comes down to developing players. They fail year over year drafting players that can play in this league outside the top 10 of the draft yearly. It's too late to fix this, they blew it for years. Next season is their last chance. They have nothing coming for prospects and are short picks next year. They likely trade more this up-and-coming deadline too. If I was an Oilers fan, of course I would be excited that he signed. But it doesn't mean they are better now because of it. They didn't get any discount from him and the contract is very risky for sure. Nobody can guarantee that he will sustain his play for 9 more years. It's just as likely he will play well below this deal as he will to live up to the deal.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by looooob

the what now?


and re Arvidsson and the PK- believe he has played a total of 5 PK minutes in the last 3 years.

I think he's referring to the two guys that swap in on the PP1 unit for the last 7 seconds of the powerplay.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Sidney Crosby who is a far better player last up 100 points when he was 31.

He has still been great a PPG player, but how many 100 point seasons do you see Draisaitl getting in his 30's?

33 forwards 100 pt seasons: Dionne, Jagr, Alfredsson
34 yo forwards 100 pt seasons Gretzky
35 yo forwards 100 pt seaons Bucyk, Ratelle

36 yo none
37 yo Sakic


that's the last 5 years of his deal. agree with you there are still some great seasons from elite forwards ages 33-37 that aren't listed here, but I'm actually surprised not a single repeat name across those ages (Gretzky is one of 5 who went 100+ at 32 so he's the only one thus far with 2 100 point seasons from age 32 onwards)


Howe did it at 40 remarkably. era adjusted or not

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by konradical

Draisaitl will be a great player even at the end of his contract. He might not be worth the money at the end but he will still be a great player in his 30s. The Oilers also dont care. They lock up Drai, McDavid and Bouchard and they will be able to contend for the next 7 years.

Draisaitl and McDavid are just too good of players to not be worth extending even if at the end the contacts might suck. They have at least 5 more elite years of Draisaitl and he will be still great in 8

Wrong. He's likely already in decline. Now they're paying more for that than his peak.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I just think of other big guys like Thornton, Iginla, Getzlaf and to a lesser degree Boyle who were able to be effective while long in the tooth.

Iginla's last "huge" season was when he was 31.

And then he moved into a productive but diminished .5 ppg era.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Iginla's last "huge" season was when he was 31.

And then he moved into a productive but diminished .5 ppg era.

Getzalf last big year was 73 points, he has a up and down stats his entire career, but he was 31.

Still was good later on.

Thorton 82 and age 36.

But none of those guys are making $14M when they are putting up 60-80 points.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

They haven't gotten worse. At worst- they are equal to last year for ATLEAST the next 2 years.

Disagree - at BEST they are no worse. But I think that is wishful thinking. Yes, Arvidsson is a better player than anyone they lost. But it is a team game, and the team lost on several fronts: they are older, they are slower, they are smaller, and they are less physical. Arvidsson may 'help' the PK, but the PK has still taken a huge hit - Ceci, Desharnais, Foegele, and McLeod were all integral to the success of the PK. SO Arvidsson better be a PK God!

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Skinner-Draisaitl-Arvidsson

They actually brought in legitimate top 6 wingers so maybe for the first time ever, they can actually separate McDrai for a prolonged period of time.

Also improves the team's 2nd PP unit. Arvidsson will help the PK as well.

To the bold, LOL.

As for the 2nd PP unit - have you ever watched the Oilers play? The top unit plays 2 full minutes, even in the last 5 minutes of a 6-1 game. There is no '2nd unit'.

Their window is still open. And they still have most of the team from last year - for one or two more years - but they are not as good as last year. And EVERYTHING went right for them last year.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Radio

I am suspicious of your true allegiance... Flames are always lowercase while oilers are always uppercase.

He has 3 other Oiler posts: all praising Oilers' signings: Henrique, Brown, Skinner.

[dino7c]

Losers coming out of the woodwork

Oilers are struggling with depth, age, prospects now...they are getting substantially worse in coming years. Zero debate.