Israel declares war on Hamas

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Gaza army wears no army uniform, which is a war crime, hence impossible to tell. As long, as army doesn't wear uniforms, there are no civilians.

“Impossible”

Hell, even the babies might be Hamas. Right Pointman?

Better bomb ‘em.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I keep telling the truth. We both know you’ve excused Putin’s demands of Ukraine even as you were fretting about being drafted, that you’ve defended anti-LGBTQ legislation in Russia, and that you called Putin one of the best leaders in the world and suggested democracy was overrated

Or do you want to lie about any of that?

You keep panic and change topics and move goalposts. I demand an apology for this post:


https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=8063

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

“Impossible”

Hell, even the babies might be Hamas. Right Pointman?

Better bomb ‘em.

Babies can't be Hamas. The only person in this thread who suggested that an army has a right to kill babies is Fuzz.

[Sultan]

Ignore Pepsi, it's just rambling anyways

There are 2 people I know of that have been in war and still are, in this forum, and it isn't a joke. Stop attacking families or war torn posters real lives, ffs. Attack the post..

Anyway, does anyone have a good part two video? Non biased, because the first youtube was posted before the strikes and even he said it would escalate back then.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

This is disgusting. You make me long for Nage Waza's posts calling me an antisemite.

Seems like you gave up on defending Palestinian cause, because it requires some knowledge, and simply insult me, because it doesn't.

[Pointman]

Originally Posted by ThePrince

Not to beat the dead horse, but again: when you value Israeli lives over Palestinian lives and think of Palestinians as nothing more than uncivilized savages, then none of this sounds “awful”. It just makes sense in their sick, twisted, disgusting minds.

When you realize they see the Palestinians as beneath them, it all makes sense. It doesn’t matter that they are kicking the Palestinians out of their homes, it doesn’t matter that they are using force and apartheid to do it. They are a lesser people, and therefore need to accept that and leave, because then you can have a “civilized society”.

I thought I couldn't make it more clear, but if I didn't, I try again. I do have issues with nations that started the war witg intention to destroy a legit state. Not just their armies or government, but with nations. Because after watching and analyzing what happened in Russia that led to Ukrainian war, I realized that the whole nation is at fault. I'm half-russian myself and I strongly dislike them. It has nothing to do with white supremacists (I'm not even white). Same with Palestinians, they are ethnic Arabs. I live side by side with Arabs in Haifa. I don't feel superior in any way. I guess, those types of white colonization issues are important to you so you extrapolate it on me and Palestinians. However, if you know my life better - and you should or don't comment on it - I'm just not the biggest fan of nations that start the war.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

What’s the civilian death toll on each side?

And please, no white nationalist videos to “support” your point. Numbers only.

Is it to a number? should it be 1 for 1, an eye for an eye perhaps? you have no clue about human history and war.

And your fixation on "white" is disturbing, please get help before you turn into a full blown hate filled racist.

P.S. Since you can't seem to back up your accusing's of these so-called white nationalist videos with claims they were deleted, how about a description, were they like Charlottesville with tiki torches, describe them or just stop with your lying BS.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Babies can't be Hamas. The only person in this thread who suggested that an army has a right to kill babies is Fuzz.

Sigh. OK. You asked "Can Ukranians retaliate with bombing train stations and such?"

With Russia indiscriminately bombing schools, hospitals, residential, basically anything with monstrous results, and Ukraine having to defend themself alone, they had their hand forced. I said they were justified "at that point" because their survival was at stake, and doing the absolute worst may have prevented more needless massacres.

"But Israel is just defending itself the same as Ukraine!" you prepare to holler. And this is where you miss reality. Because while Hamas was the aggressor on October 7th, any threat of them doing what Russia was doing to Ukraine is laughable. They continue to be unable to do anything like that.

So now you have an entire region of civilians who have lost everything. They are not a threat. Israel has killed over 40 000, while they have lost ~1179. This is a extremely asymmetric, as are their weaponry. I firmly believe this means Israel has a moral duty to minimize civilian casualties, because slaughtering innocent people is, well, ####ing evil when their are alternatives. Beyond that, it does not increase Israel's long term safety, it greatly ratchets up the threat, as I have explained before.

And all this doesn't even get into why Palestinians may have had enough of the blockades and control of their territory, theft of their lands, harassment, the misery of their lives and lack of agency over them, and what might push people to forfeit their lives for a chance at freedom.

As for me being some threat to your son, you are the one justifying the slaughter of Palestinians and justifying the theft of their homes and land. You don't see that as endangering his life. When you figure that bit out let me know. When you value some nameless parent-less 4 year old Palestinian boy as much as your own son, that is when you will get it.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Is it to a number? should it be 1 for 1, an eye for an eye perhaps? you have no clue about human history and war.

And your fixation on "white" is disturbing, please get help before you turn into a full blown hate filled racist.

P.S. Since you can't seem to back up your accusing's of these so-called white nationalist videos with claims they were deleted, how about a description, were they like Charlottesville with tiki torches, describe them or just stop with your lying BS.

Ah, so when it suits your argument it’s fine to bring up a “bus load” of people or point to October 7, but when you’re too chicken to face the death toll and actually stand behind it like an adult it’s others who don’t understand. Weak.

You posted the videos and multiple people linked you to the thread where it describes said videos. If you’re still going to play that dumb, you can’t turn around and pretend you’re smart enough to pull off the “you’re a racist for calling me racist!” thing and have anyone believe you. Nobody does.

Every time you complain about being called a white nationalist, I’ll bring up the video so you can lie about it. It gets worse for you every time you do.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Babies can't be Hamas. The only person in this thread who suggested that an army has a right to kill babies is Fuzz.

“There are no civilians”

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Pointman

1. Wars are absolutely horrible. Everything that's happening during the war, as well as the war itself, is totally unacceptable.

2. Reject the idea that wars should be civilized and normalized by introducing some rules, because it creates the totally wrong opinion that wars are fine as long, as you follow the rules.

3. The nation, not just the army, that started the war, should be punished. Punishment doesn't necessarily imply that they all should be murdered, however if they suffer in some way as collateral damage, so be it. It's horrible obviously, but the responsibility is on the side that started the war.


Basically, 2 and 3 you more or less got right. You should also keep 1 in mind too though. I'm probably the only one in this thread, whose life was detailed by an actual war, and the only one currently living in the state of war.

3 just happens to be one of the most disgusting inhumane statements a person can make. It’s you advocating for yourself to be punished for the invasion of the Ukraine. It makes no sense.

Civilians aren’t part of the war.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Is it to a number? should it be 1 for 1, an eye for an eye perhaps? you have no clue about human history and war.

And your fixation on "white" is disturbing, please get help before you turn into a full blown hate filled racist.

P.S. Since you can't seem to back up your accusing's of these so-called white nationalist videos with claims they were deleted, how about a description, were they like Charlottesville with tiki torches, describe them or just stop with your lying BS.

Perhaps they should go to war with the source of Hamas power. Iran is funding Hamas. When Israel takes out Hamas operatives in Iran Civilian casualties are minimized. When they attack Hamas members in Gaza they are not.

Because Israel has such asymmetric power over Gaza they get to make a choice. Attack without concern for civilian casualties, use people as human shields, rape prisoners or they could use more precision, provide aid, accept more casualties. They have a choice they can make.

When it comes to Iran they no that total war would be damaging for them. So they don’t have the same choice to make. They have to be measured and careful in attacks on Iran.

I would like them to wage war against Gaza in the same manner they are waging war against Iran.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Pointman

Could you please comment on Fuzz, who said that it's ok to blow my two years old son?

You just said collateral damage is ok and "so be it" so you must think that it's ok for your 2 year old son to be blown up because Russia started the war right? Remember when you were a Putin bootlicker and IN Russia? You believe you yourself should have been punished but then ran to Israel.

Thank god you didn't run to Canada because your sick twisted mind is not welcome here.

[jayswin]

How is pointman not getting this?

[Sultan]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

You just said collateral damage is ok and "so be it" so you must think that it's ok for your 2 year old son to be blown up because Russia started the war right? Remember when you were a Putin bootlicker and IN Russia? You believe you yourself should have been punished but then ran to Israel.

Thank god you didn't run to Canada because your sick twisted mind is not welcome here.

Zary - your blind hatred and selective outrage makes me wish and hope you are a bot and not a Canadian. Jesus, imagine if the whole country was full of abusive, stupid people like you.

Pointman- if I could give you advice, it would be to ignore these selective outrage posters who support rape and the killing of children, as long as it is Hamas or Palestinians or Trump. They are the tiki torch Charlottesville people, just angry ignorant people who spend to much time on the internet.

Don't try to defend yourself to them, they do not matter and they sure as #### don't speak for all Canadians who are trying to understand. You can see that by who posts in this thread but ignores the Ukraine thread.

Hamas literally has their goal to eradicate all Jewish people. That is hate and Hitler talk - you cant expect anything rational from people like that, but they are not the majority. (Hamas, not Palestinians) . Just lonely whiney people who call names and are actually abusive.

I disliked you very very very much Pointman, when the war first stated in Ukraine. I understand now that it was what you believed, how you were raised and other factors. I have even seen you change. That is something that angry, no life, abusive people can never do. Please just ignore them, save yourself the grief. They support rapists and wont condemn it even now. Not a peep about the parading or the shopping malls and children's hospitals in the Ukraine thread.

Look at the the posts for the last couple pages. You trying to explain, while they just attack you. Let them be angry.

Please don't try to defend yourself to some loser who posts 50 times a day with no life and is abusive.

Anyways. Is there a second video that could make describe 2023- to now that someone could share. I would like to watch it. I think Nentayu is has been using this to do the same as Hamas and take more and more power. If the youtube guy saw it coming, then others must have, did he let it happen so he could do this?

[PepsiFree]

Sultan, 30% of your entire posting history (which goes back 20 years) is about Zary’s Mustache.

That’s pretty weird. You’re also telling a lot of strange, easily debunked lies.

Maybe you should spend more time searching for the videos you keep asking for, because you don’t seem to be adding anything by posting.

[Sultan]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Sultan, 30% of your entire posting history (which goes back 20 years) is about Zary’s Mustache.

That’s pretty weird. You’re also telling a lot of strange, easily debunked lies.

Maybe you should spend more time searching for the videos you keep asking for, because you don’t seem to be adding anything by posting.

Hey Pepsi - I actually asked for videos lol this page and the last to see both sides, lol. You type a lot but reading may not be your strong suit, then we can all see what you watch. It was easy to read and I asked multiple times.



Again, angry abusive people like you would rather stalk or insult others than post a video or have an earnest conversation. You being angry and not posting any content just is you being whiney and abusive, but you think you are cool because you have time to post 50 times a day lol. Somehow you think that matters... internet trolls are too funny.



If my post is wrong, please correct me. This isn't a hard concept. Or just keep attacking, stalking, posting manifestos 50 times in a day without anything of substance.


I will make it easy for you.


I asked if the video was accurate, FA said it kind of was, do you have an opinion?


As well, any comment on the start of the war when Hamas paraded the women around for cameras bleeding from everywhere in the back of a truck?


Post a video, correct me, or its easy to see you're just a sad abusive person who lost the ability to communicate to a middle ground.


I would go through your posts but man, take me years, do you work? (That was me just being as ass, no hate here man)

[Zary's-Mustache]

Funny that whenever JM signs out Sultan signs in.

Nobody reads your posts Sultan go sign in to your other account.

[Sultan]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Funny that whenever JM signs out Sultan signs in.

Nobody reads your posts Sultan go sign in to your other account.

Weird, I'm here now. did you want to address the topics in this post or just lie?


I have no idea why you think bullying and hate and adding absolutely nothing like that is a good idea.

Sorry I didn't have time to post one liners in every topic and forum to get my post count up, it just didn't seem like a good use of my time.

Care to comment on the thread, or just whining and making things up?

Stop attacking posters, its just whining and showing that you have nothing but hate to contribute or delusional.
How do you feel about the women being paraded in the truck? While ignoring other conflicts and civilians in Ukraine?

War isn't a joke.

You're a mult or another person who had to recreate an account and that's fine, but you're so needy you project it. Its sad really. Same with posting in every forum to get your boxes back.

Maybe noone listens to me that's ok. Half the reason i didn't post is because others put it more eloquently, even Pepsi on some topics. But the last two pages show you do not care about civilians, rape, murder, nor this conflict, you just like bullying, stalking and abusing people for some silly reason.

I will try again for you.

Was the video accurate? Do you have one for the last 2 years that would show your side for us?

What is Intifada Zary, how many of them were there? Why do they matter?

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

Funny that whenever JM signs out Sultan signs in.

Nobody reads your posts Sultan go sign in to your other account.

Shouldn't you have your tongue firmly planted in Trumps b-hole? What are you doing here attacking and insulting people who had to flee a warn torn country?



Man I leave for 5 minutes and you guys go right back to insulting a man for saving the lives of his children, what vile inhumane people you must be.