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Old 08-06-2024, 04:51 PM   #18101
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Good speech, didn't quite stick the landing but got some good sound bites in for the news shows to run with and gave the impression of a no-BS middle class dad that makes him appealing. Maybe could've pushed the blue collar stuff a bit harder.
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Old 08-06-2024, 04:51 PM   #18102
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Tim absolutely crushed it. Great speech from a great guy!
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Old 08-06-2024, 04:52 PM   #18103
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I'm loving Walz!

He'll debate Vance but not sure if JD will get off the couch.. hahahahahhaa
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Old 08-06-2024, 04:52 PM   #18104
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Holy ####, candidates that can complete a coherent sentence

Maybe there is some hope for the US after all
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It might actually be better that Biden stepped down late. The deplorables should be scared kyitless.
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Evangelicals have some really, really weird beliefs about how anything to do with the female body should be treated as a source of secrecy and shame. Some conservatives believe that using a tampon means you're not a virgin anymore (and are therefore tainted and worthless to your future husband in the eyes of evangelicals) or that using a tampon somehow promotes teenage promiscuity for ?reasons?.

They're also the biggest proponents of the terrible and failed policy of "abstinence only" sex education, so they never properly learn how menstruation works. Many conservative men genuinely believe that women can just "hold it in" (like urine) and therefore it's not necessary for schools to provide feminine hygiene products to students.

They'll never admit it, but these people share far more common beliefs with the Taliban than they do with mainstream Americans.
That must be a very, very small number these days.
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We've come a long way since Vice President Trump.
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Trumps view on abortion is fair. He's against a national ban on abortion and wants the citizens in each state to vote on it.
Peoples opinion on abortion differ in various states and this seems like the only logical solution.
Using this logic for how to govern on human rights is insane. So because the majority of people in Afghanistan would vote to stone women to death for adultery, sounds like a fair and cool situation?

The US used to be on the other side of these things - rights and freedoms for all, despite what the majority may think. This was an approach inspired by a world history of victimized minorities that the US had looked to learn from and not repeat.

... and here we are.
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It might actually be better that Biden stepped down late. The deplorables should be scared kyitless.
Yea the biggest reason for Hillary's failure was the GOP's smear campaign that they ran for years, which only amplified in the 12 months before the election with "but her emails" as the final crescendo. Republicans were caught completely flat footed with Biden's departure and have nothing in the tank for Kamala, now they're throwing any #### they can think of at the wall hoping something sticks but it's all falling flat so far
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Using this logic for how to govern on human rights is insane. So because the majority of people in Afghanistan would vote to stone women to death for adultery, sounds like a fair and cool situation?

The US used to be on the other side of these things - rights and freedoms for all, despite what the majority may think. This was an approach inspired by a world history of victimized minorities that the US had looked to learn from and not repeat.

... and here we are.
You're accepting an incorrect premise. Regardless of what he says in a tweet, he's beholden to ideological interests and a cadre of oligarchs, and their agenda is very clearly spelled out in Project 2025. The only reason he's disavowing it right now is that it's unpopular. If he gets elected there is no reason to think he's going to stand up to the people who wrote and support that agenda. In fact there's every reason to think he won't.

So yes, the prospect of a new Trump administration taking multiple runs at a national abortion ban isn't just a possibility, it's a strong likelihood.
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EDIT: Dammit, beaten to it.
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Old 08-06-2024, 05:37 PM   #18114
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Who was twerkin to get the crowd today ?
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Trumps view on abortion is fair. He's against a national ban on abortion and wants the citizens in each state to vote on it.
Peoples opinion on abortion differ in various states and this seems like the only logical solution.
The logical solution would for each State to have a vote on abortion. Problem is you got Arizona and other State GOP's who are working hard to make sure it's not the will of the people.

States break out new tactics to thwart abortion ballot measures

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In nearly every state where the question of abortion rights could be put to a popular vote this November, conservatives are deploying several strategies — from suing to have signatures thrown out in Montana and South Dakota to refusing to count signatures in Arkansas — as they attempt to block ballot initiatives that would restore or expand access to the procedure.
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Yet many conservatives seeking to block the ballot measures argue that voters should not be allowed to weigh in directly on when and whether people can terminate a pregnancy.

“We are working to make sure it doesn’t get on the ballot in the first place,” said Jill Norgaard, a board member of Arizona Right to Life and former Republican member of the Arizona House of Representatives. “When you enshrine something in the state constitution, it ties the hands of future legislators. If this is in the constitution, there’s no way to back it out. It’s literally stuck.”
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Harris rally vs. Trump rally

Same arena in Philly
FireItUp will be by shortly to tell us it's an optical illusion and fake news.
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The thing I liked after watching it here, was finally the Democrats (Walz) pointing out that Republicans are now the party of big government, not freedom. When he mentioned that they are cool with the government being in the doctor's office with you, I was like "exactly!"



I never understood why that wasn't a bigger talking point for them down there when all these anti abortion and LGBTQ+ things are being pushed through.
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Old 08-06-2024, 05:54 PM   #18119
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The thing I liked after watching it here, was finally the Democrats (Walz) pointing out that Republicans are now the party of big government, not freedom. When he mentioned that they are cool with the government being in the doctor's office with you, I was like "exactly!"
It was a good part of the speech. His "golden rule" line, which he's used before, seems like a good one to stick with.

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This isn't true, though. There is an actual document, an agreement, between the two campaigns about the debate. That document states that the Republican candidate for president will debate the Democratic candidate for president on ABC on September 10, with the attendant details. It does not mention "Joe Biden" specifically.
You and your damn facts. What are you some sort of checker of facts?

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