08-01-2024, 01:46 PM
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#17701
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Boxed-in
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Originally Posted by Sliver
Yeah? And do you have one example you could post of that theory working?
Do all that and he'll just call you a meatball, the audience will laugh their heads off and you'll be known as Meatball Cube Inmate forever more.
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It's Crybaby Cube, if you please.
I don't have an example because it hasn't been done. The only forum where it'll work is one where the microphones are controlled and he can't storm off in a huff, like a debate. In any other forum, he can dominate. To date, all his debate opponents have tried to argue the issues... and I think you agree with me that's pointless.
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08-01-2024, 02:01 PM
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#17702
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by Cube Inmate
It's Crybaby Cube, if you please.
I don't have an example because it hasn't been done. The only forum where it'll work is one where the microphones are controlled and he can't storm off in a huff, like a debate. In any other forum, he can dominate. To date, all his debate opponents have tried to argue the issues... and I think you agree with me that's pointless.
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I do agree with you. Maybe your plan would work, but then you'd basically need a comedian-style delivery to roast him and I don't think Harris is our person for that.
That's like the debate of Notley vs Smith in the last provincial election. I was hoping Notley would come out swinging and calling Smith a liar and stuff, but instead, she tried to debate in good faith and ended up looking weaker than if she more aggressively countered and busted her on lies.
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08-01-2024, 02:03 PM
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#17703
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Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Debates, speeches, all a waste. Doesn't tell you anything. What they really need is a course, opening with a water drinking, perhaps followed by a ramp decent, a puzzle...that kinda stuff. Really show Americans what is what.
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08-01-2024, 02:05 PM
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#17704
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Debates, speeches, all a waste. Doesn't tell you anything. What they really need is a course, opening with a water drinking, perhaps followed by a ramp decent, a puzzle...that kinda stuff. Really show Americans what is what.
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The End Boss will be closing an umbrella before walking through a doorway while trying to get toilet paper off your shoe.
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08-01-2024, 02:06 PM
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#17705
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Overheard a conversation this morning, about how Trump 'sure showed her' in the interview yesterday. And who could blame him - she didn't even say hello.
I do not kid. As suggest a few times just above: you can't beat him at his game.
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08-01-2024, 02:08 PM
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#17706
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Sliver
In a sane world, yes. Just like Hillary kicked his ass if we cared about cogent arguments, facts and articulable policy. Trump debates don't go like that, though. He'll just say dumb/mean things and his base will think he won. He's super tough to beat.
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The bolded part is so true. He doesn't debate anything really, he is just a walking, talking attack ad. Unfortunately, these things do sway voters because many people just want the person who appears strong. Facts don't matter.
He'll say things like he will "fix inflation", then when asked how, he just side rails the conversation into attacks on others. The debates have become more about entertainment than substance.
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08-01-2024, 02:13 PM
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#17707
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by activeStick
I don't even understand this thing that's become a thing among the MAGA circle. Her father is of Jamaican ancestry, and her mom is of Indian ancestry. So, she's both black and Indian. What's the issue here? Have these people never known anyone of mixed ancestry??! Why are they so confused??! Harris can accurately say she's black, or Indian and be correct. This isn't that hard...
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But you can’t be both! That’s not fair! We’re just whities!! I’ve never heard a white guy from North America claim to also be Italian… or Irish…. Or German…. That’s never ever ever happened.
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08-01-2024, 02:45 PM
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#17708
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever.
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08-01-2024, 03:00 PM
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#17709
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: not lurking
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
The bolded part is so true. He doesn't debate anything really, he is just a walking, talking attack ad. Unfortunately, these things do sway voters because many people just want the person who appears strong. Facts don't matter.
He'll say things like he will "fix inflation", then when asked how, he just side rails the conversation into attacks on others. The debates have become more about entertainment than substance.
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Yeah, I'd be curious to see how Harris would handle a debate against him, because the temptation would be to go into prosecutor mode, which might not work as effectively given the lack of rules in a debate. Harris attempting to litigate Trump and failing as he simply lies and denies, would cause casual observers to have a perception that Harris lost the debate. It might be better for her to focus on selling her vision and qualifications, and counterattack Trump when he leaves her openings to do so. Kamala bolstering her own identity as a very knowledgeable, capable, and empathetic leader achieves more than trying worsen Trump's reputation.
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08-01-2024, 03:02 PM
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#17710
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by octothorp
Yeah, I'd be curious to see how Harris would handle a debate against him, because the temptation would be to go into prosecutor mode, which might not work as effectively given the lack of rules in a debate. Harris attempting to litigate Trump and failing as he simply lies and denies, would cause casual observers to have a perception that Harris lost the debate. It might be better for her to focus on selling her vision and qualifications, and counterattack Trump when he leaves her openings to do so. Kamala bolstering her own identity as a very knowledgeable, capable, and empathetic leader achieves more than trying worsen Trump's reputation.
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Ask Hillary how that approach worked.
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08-01-2024, 03:07 PM
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#17711
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sliver
Ask Hillary how that approach worked.
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I remember after trump was elected I was watching the inauguration with an American friend. I commented that I couldn't believe how trump won. He replied "What was Hilary Clinton's campaign Slogan?"
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08-01-2024, 03:12 PM
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#17712
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Boxed-in
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Trying to avoid the 'basket of deplorables' comment would be a good first step. Focus on the one true deplorable.
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08-01-2024, 04:08 PM
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#17713
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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08-01-2024, 04:40 PM
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#17714
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Cube Inmate
Trying to avoid the 'basket of deplorables' comment would be a good first step. Focus on the one true deplorable.
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So just avoid having your speeches taken out of context?
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08-01-2024, 04:54 PM
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#17715
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cube Inmate
Trying to avoid the 'basket of deplorables' comment would be a good first step. Focus on the one true deplorable.
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Meanwhile, he can call pretty much all immigrants rapists.
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08-01-2024, 04:59 PM
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#17716
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I remember after trump was elected I was watching the inauguration with an American friend. I commented that I couldn't believe how trump won. He replied "What was Hilary Clinton's campaign Slogan?"
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That's pretty telling. It goes back to the idea that knowing how to win an election is different than actually being qualified to govern. Slogans go into that first part.
Fortunately, Harris has a pretty good slogan (We're not going back!). It's a good slogan, but the double entendre makes it fun and sassy, even if that may not have been on purpose.
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08-01-2024, 06:12 PM
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#17717
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: wearing raccoons for boots
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Trump complaining about the questions yesterday was funniest when the journo said 'i am reading a statement you made back to you, these are your words'
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08-01-2024, 06:24 PM
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#17718
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Originally Posted by devo22
Trump has outperformed people's expectations both in 16 and 20, there's obviously enough people out there who let him get away with anything (or love him because they are racist/sexist/etc. themselves), so I'm certainly not holding my breath for a landslide or anything like that. In a sane world, she'd mop the floor with the turd, but this is not a sane world. He could commit murder and it would probably still be super close.
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He got 3M less votes and then 7M less votes
the system kept it close not Trump...nearly any republican would do better than Trump but please don't tell them
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08-01-2024, 08:20 PM
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#17719
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappy
So just avoid having your speeches taken out of context?
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No. Avoid saying stupid ####. Leave the stupid #### to the other guy.
Leave out 'half' and you are good. There is no context required. That is the context. And it's probably not wrong, or maybe more than half is accurate - but it is idiotic to say.
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“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
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