2024 Flames Development Camp

[CsInMyBlood]

I dont think it would be a horrible thing for Zayne to learn at the NHL level especially since our team isnt trying to win the Cup next year. He is obviously mature enough and smart enough. Those that are saying the NHL isnt a development league arent taking into account what our team is going to be next season. We can develop here.

I do think it's not the best idea because he will probably make the Flames a better team and we dont want that right now.

I also believe another year of junior to bulk up is probably the best thing for him but I have the feeling he is going to make it a really hard decision on where he plays next year.

And that's a good thing.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Does any 18 year old defender "Learn" in the NHL. The NHL isn't a development league. It never has been.

Of course they do. Look no further than Noah Hanifin.

And of course it's a development league. Players improve in this league all the time so long as they are good enough to play in this league. Elite talents hit ceilings in junior and develop bad habits if they play junior too long.

[Two Fivenagame]

Agree with the posters advocating for patience with Parekh. There's absolutely no rush. Makar played at UMass for his D+1 year.

[Royle9]

I think we can just trust Craig and his staff to make the right decision.
Zayne will dictate where he plays through the different camps.

He'll end up playing where he should be this year.

[FlamesAreOne]

Yesterday's camp coverage in this thread was amazing. Thanks everyone, please keep it up!!

[sevenarms]

Originally Posted by Two Fivenagame

Agree with the posters advocating for patience with Parekh. There's absolutely no rush. Makar played at UMass for his D+1 year.

Quinn Hughes was a NHL regular in his D+2 year. Cale Makar was an NHL regular in his D+3 year. Both of those guys turned out ok.

[Dan403]

I took the day off and am driving up from Lethbridge area to take in today’s camp.

[EVERLAST]

Man that's a big jump for anyone to make ...major junior to the show. His footspeed to me seems lacking and that's also what Conroy said about Hunter Brz the other dynamo we will be waiting to see .

If we can be patient enough we'll see a kid improve his skating and defensive side put on some more weight and be less injury prone. Even if he made the AHL level he'd have to fight for his life....the ECHL and AHL are full of guys who are trying to make the show but never will and run around trying to take runs at the sure next thing and if you don't think so you aren't paying attention.

At the same time I don't want the Flames roster plugged up with Knuckdraggers just to protect rookies . I'm so done with that mentality on this team where we have to have a nuclear deterrent.

That doesn't help score goals , the game is changing and fighting is down anyway.

I want to win another cup and see it in my lifetime and there is a way better chance now
With all the changes , this awesome draft and our current depth (potential)

Look at Coronato as an example. He wasn't ready and so they put him in thr only place they could to cook for a little longer and he's still not a sure thing in my eyes.

Zaynes gonna be a heck of a playa for sure as is Hunter but let's make sure we let the strength coaches, skating coaches etc develop a game plan so they can step in when ready and make a noticeable impact instead of some Evan Doochbomb premature ejaculator who needs mommy when someone has him in a headlock . God now that is embarrassing and yet this is what the oilers continue to crank out plus their retreads, reclamation projects of everything hockey.

[TheIronMaiden]

It's not like rushing your top prospect into the roster is going to benefit the Flames or the Player.

Next year is going to be a #### show no matter what ( unless wolf can steal games).

[Royle9]

Day 2 begins!
Coronato working with skating coach on his own in another rink

[SuperMatt18]

Parekh can go back to the OHL next year...but the issue is going to be 25-26...he's going to be too good for the OHL by that point, and isn't eligible for the AHL yet.

So think that's where you pencil him in the Flames lineup.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Parekh can go back to the OHL next year...but the issue is going to be 25-26...he's going to be too good for the OHL by that point, and isn't eligible for the AHL yet.

So think that's where you pencil him in the Flames lineup.

This is just crazy that he can't play in the AHL the following year.

How many of the other top 10 picks fall into this category?

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Parekh can go back to the OHL next year...but the issue is going to be 25-26...he's going to be too good for the OHL by that point, and isn't eligible for the AHL yet.

So think that's where you pencil him in the Flames lineup.

That's what I am hoping for. Flames 2025 pick + Parekh making their debuts in 2025-26. This is when fans will start to see the light.

[transplant99]

The NHL is a developmental league now??


OK....goofy season is officially underway.

LOL

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

This is just crazy that he can't play in the AHL the following year.

How many of the other top 10 picks fall into this category?

All the CHL guys except Yakemchuk (because he was born in 2005 where the rest were born in 2006).

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Parekh can go back to the OHL next year...but the issue is going to be 25-26...he's going to be too good for the OHL by that point, and isn't eligible for the AHL yet.

So think that's where you pencil him in the Flames lineup.

Yeah he may make the club next year, but the other side of that is why burn an entire season of his ELC when the club is going to be anything but competitive?

Part of the business side of the game is to try and extract value out of every SPC signed.

Sending him back to junior delays not only the start of his initial 3 year deal, but also re-signing him on his second deal when you have to believe the club, at that point, will see themselves as contenders and where it is he will make a real impact to the team.

[SuperMatt18]

It really is a rule they need to adjust...if you are a first round pick you should be able to enter the AHL for your Draft+2 regardless of age.

Originally Posted by transplant99

Yeah he may make the club next year, but the other side of that is why burn an entire season of his ELC when the club is going to be anything but competitive?

Part of the business side of the game is to try and extract value out of every SPC signed.

Sending him back to junior delays not only the start of his initial 3 year deal, but also re-signing him on his second deal when you have to believe the club, at that point, will see themselves as contenders and where it is he will make a real impact to the team.

Because there is such thing as stalling development when a player is playing too long against a level of competition he's clearly better than.

He's CHL dman of the year and won a Memorial Cup already...sure you can keep him in the CHL for one more season but keeping him there for 2 more years is going to stunt his development more than it helps it.

Ideally he'd be spending that season in the AHL but it's a stupid rule that forces him to stay in the CHL...TBH i'm suprised that rule hasn't been challenged legally or by the players association. It actually prevents the player from making money they could be making in the AHL and forces them to go play for nothing in the CHL.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It really is a rule they need to adjust...if you are a first round pick you should be able to enter the AHL for your Draft+2 regardless of age.

Its part of the give and take the NHL has with the CHL.

They are the single biggest feeder system to the league and are treated as such. There is a business side to junior hockey as well and having great/dominating players to help win/sell tickets because of winning, means its better for their business. That keeps them happy and willing to eat losses in many instances, and in turn keeps producing the same for NHL teams.

Its a fair trade off.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Its part of the give and take the NHL has with the CHL.

They are the single biggest feeder system to the league and are treated as such. There is a business side to junior hockey as well and having great/dominating players to help win/sell tickets because of winning, means its better for their business. That keeps them happy and willing to eat losses in many instances, and in turn keeps producing the same for NHL teams.

Its a fair trade off.

I think the CHL has way less power than it once did and I think it will get challenged.

USHL/NCAA and Europe are just as prolific at developing the top tier talent now...if I was a top prospect I'd probably consider the NCAA route for the sole reason that I can get to the AHL faster.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It really is a rule they need to adjust...if you are a first round pick you should be able to enter the AHL for your Draft+2 regardless of age.



Because there is such thing as stalling development when a player is playing too long against a level of competition he's clearly better than.

He's CHL dman of the year and won a Memorial Cup already...sure you can keep him in the CHL for one more season but keeping him there for 2 more years is going to stunt his development more than it helps it.

Ideally he'd be spending that season in the AHL but it's a stupid rule that forces him to stay in the CHL...TBH i'm suprised that rule hasn't been challenged legally or by the players association. It actually prevents the player from making money they could be making in the AHL and forces them to go play for nothing in the CHL.

That is strictly an opinion and certainly not shared by the hierarchy of the league.

Im not even sure its a great rule any longer other than the business side of it, but it makes sense for the leagues involved, if not for the teams involved, but certainly not for the player is some instances.