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Old 07-01-2024, 02:23 PM   #121
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My 2 cents on Kuzmenko, from listening to what Gonchar(development coach with VAN) had to say about him:
1. His defensive play is due to him never being taught proper system play.
2. Kuzmenko put in a ton of effort on his defensive game, which resulted in a drop in his offense, but he was still always doing it with a smile.
3. Kuzmenko is a pro, and his Defensive play will click eventually.
4. He only had 2 years in the NHL, and is still adjusting.

I'm a huge fan of the guy, and I think that he will work his behind off to become a more complete forward. If he figures it out he will become a star.
He’s going to want a long term deal. If he wants a 2 year extension cool. Otherwise he has to be traded.

We can’t hand out long term big money deals to players in their 30s anymore.

We are going to have to eventually start paying the players we draft as well. We can’t just spend our cap space because we have it. Brad did that and we lost some players.

We want to retain our young player in their prime. Not sign bridge deals.
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Old 07-01-2024, 02:26 PM   #122
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Ya, but it isn't surprising that the people who want to see the team burn forever want to get rid of him.
You do know we are at the very early stages of a rebuild, right?

If you don't see that this is a rebuild yet, I don't know what to tell you.
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Old 07-01-2024, 02:30 PM   #123
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He’s going to want a long term deal. If he wants a 2 year extension cool. Otherwise he has to be traded.

We can’t hand out long term big money deals to players in their 30s anymore.

We are going to have to eventually start paying the players we draft as well. We can’t just spend our cap space because we have it. Brad did that and we lost some players.

We want to retain our young player in their prime. Not sign bridge deals.
Yeah, I understand that Kuzmenko likely won't re-sign with the Flames, and would be traded at the deadline. I'm still cheering for him to have a PPG season, and bring back a haul.
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Old 07-01-2024, 02:35 PM   #124
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You say this all the time. No one spends and this time here having discussions putting in time and effort wishing the team burns.

This is a rebuild. Kuzmenko doesn’t fit a rebuild.
Because people are saying stupid things like flipping him for a second now. If you can get him on a 3-4 year extension at 6M AAV and he plays to his ability you will get a haul for him when you trade him.
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Always gotta make it personal and emotional don't you.
Gotta always make another profile after receiving a lifetime suspension don't you.
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Old 07-01-2024, 02:38 PM   #126
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Because people are saying stupid things like flipping him for a second now. If you can get him on a 3-4 year extension at 6M AAV and he plays to his ability you will get a haul for him when you trade him.
lol say that instead of making up crap that people want the team to ‘burn’ forever
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Old 07-01-2024, 02:40 PM   #127
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He’s going to want a long term deal. If he wants a 2 year extension cool. Otherwise he has to be traded.

We can’t hand out long term big money deals to players in their 30s anymore.

We are going to have to eventually start paying the players we draft as well. We can’t just spend our cap space because we have it. Brad did that and we lost some players.

We want to retain our young player in their prime. Not sign bridge deals.
What young players do you think we would be forced to bridge in 5 years because Kuzmenko signs a 5-year deal?
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Old 07-01-2024, 02:42 PM   #128
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lol say that instead of making up crap that people want the team to ‘burn’ forever
No, there is definitely posters in here that are only happy when the team is bad. That was proven 3 years ago when those posters hardly contributed when the team was winning the Pacific until they bowed out to the Oilers, then they came out if the woodwork like starving cockroaches.
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Because people are saying stupid things like flipping him for a second now. If you can get him on a 3-4 year extension at 6M AAV and he plays to his ability you will get a haul for him when you trade him.
But that’s not hoping the team burns.

I’m not sure if he brings back a haul. A 2nd is good value for him now. I’d rather keep him and move him at the deadline when you can probably get a 1st and prospects maybe.
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What young players do you think we would be forced to bridge in 5 years because Kuzmenko signs a 5-year deal?
Guys who would be extension eligible. Wolf, Zary and Coronato. Parekh if he signs could be up during that time frame as well.

Not saying everyone single one is going to be paid, but we should be careful with our cap and not tie another bad contract to the team.
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Good deal in terms of dollar amount and term. I really hope Yegor won't turn into Eat Bread 2.0 after landing this big pay raise....
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Is it confirmed that there are no NMCs or NTCs attached to this contract?
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Old 07-01-2024, 07:54 PM   #135
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Is it confirmed that there are no NMCs or NTCs attached to this contract?
It's in here somewhere that it's a 10 team NTC for the first 4 years and an 8 team NTC the last year, IIRC
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Thanks for this! I am on the ball with everything about the game other than contracts. I should probably work on that


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The new contract will have new terms. Because he's only 26, he's not eligible for a NTC/NMC on his current contract, so any clauses on the new deal won't apply retroactively (if he was over 27, they potentially could have).


EDIT: This was posted earlier in this thread regarding the clauses... "Years 1-4: 10 team no trade list, Year 5: 8 team"
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