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Old 07-01-2024, 12:11 PM   #101
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Ya, but it isn't surprising that the people who want to see the team burn forever want to get rid of him.
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Old 07-01-2024, 12:15 PM   #102
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He just turned 26 and coming off a 31 goal campaign, all while moving to a new position at C. His value was only going up.

I guess I'm not as sold on the long-term outlook on this player, especially at C, and especially especially as a C that could contribute in the playoffs. I would have preferred them to hold to get more information this season and maintaining the option to sell him for assets if he's not showing more progression
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Old 07-01-2024, 12:18 PM   #103
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I guess I'm not as sold on the long-term outlook on this player, especially at C, and especially especially as a C that could contribute in the playoffs. I would have preferred them to hold to get more information this season and maintaining the option to sell him for assets if he's not showing more progression
If he proved this year wasn't a fluke and was a center he'd be worth 7-8 million
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Old 07-01-2024, 12:24 PM   #104
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Curious if this comes with a NMC, or because it's an extension do the original contract terms remain in place outside of the money?
The new contract will have new terms. Because he's only 26, he's not eligible for a NTC/NMC on his current contract, so any clauses on the new deal won't apply retroactively (if he was over 27, they potentially could have).


EDIT: This was posted earlier in this thread regarding the clauses... "Years 1-4: 10 team no trade list, Year 5: 8 team"
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Old 07-01-2024, 12:26 PM   #105
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I don't really understand this deal, or why they have to re-sign him now. I suppose he will be good for some chaotic goals both ways which could be entertaining as we hopefully bottom out. Hopefully this means no Debrusk.
He's a really good player and this is a really, really good signing. And the team has to put some players on the ice. They're not going scorched Earth. And he's still young.

I think this is a fantastic deal.
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Old 07-01-2024, 12:39 PM   #106
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Ya, but it isn't surprising that the people who want to see the team burn forever want to get rid of him.
Meanwhile it's about 5 minutes into the rebuild.
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Man Craig Conroy is knocking this GM thing out of the park.

Awesome deal.
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Old 07-01-2024, 12:41 PM   #108
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I guess I'm not as sold on the long-term outlook on this player, especially at C, and especially especially as a C that could contribute in the playoffs. I would have preferred them to hold to get more information this season and maintaining the option to sell him for assets if he's not showing more progression
They need bodies and need to hit the cap floor. This contract will be over when the Flames are making noise in the playoffs
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Old 07-01-2024, 12:42 PM   #110
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Ya, but it isn't surprising that the people who want to see the team burn forever want to get rid of him.
It's a rebuild man, you can get on board now.
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That's a stretch. He did not play a lot of centre.

He played more than half a season at C
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He's a really good player and this is a really, really good signing. And the team has to put some players on the ice. They're not going scorched Earth. And he's still young.

I think this is a fantastic deal.
This.

There is still some responsibility to ice a real team when charging the money they do to the STH and suite occupants.
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Old 07-01-2024, 12:45 PM   #113
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Meanwhile it's about 5 minutes into the rebuild.
If Kuzmenko was the same age as Sharangovich I wouldn’t mind them re-signing him but he is useless when he isn’t scoring. I’d take him on a short deal but no interest in having him on term.
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Old 07-01-2024, 01:18 PM   #114
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Ya, but it isn't surprising that the people who want to see the team burn forever want to get rid of him.
You say this all the time. No one spends and this time here having discussions putting in time and effort wishing the team burns.

This is a rebuild. Kuzmenko doesn’t fit a rebuild.
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Old 07-01-2024, 01:19 PM   #115
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Ya, but it isn't surprising that the people who want to see the team burn forever want to get rid of him.
Always gotta make it personal and emotional don't you.
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Old 07-01-2024, 01:34 PM   #116
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I think it's a fair signing. Sharangovich was pretty great from Q2 on. After finding his game for the first 15 games, he had 29G and 54P in his last 67GP... That's a 35G, 66P pace! That's a bargain for $5.75M.

Is Yegor perfect, of course not. He and his line need to work on a lot of things defensively. That said he is the perfect player for a rebuild. A fast forward, that's a huge threat on breakaways, is great in the shootout, and has a great shot on the PP, and is among the league leaders for SHGs. Once the Flames started clicking in the last quarter of the season, he put up 9 PP points in 21GP. That makes me cautiously optimistic about him turning into a 35 goal, 70 point player.

I really look forward to Huberdeau - Zary - Sharangovich as our 2nd line.
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Old 07-01-2024, 01:35 PM   #117
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He’s 26 and scored 30 goals. We have cap space and that money wasn’t going to be used anyways. Even if he sucks he won’t hold us back from doing things as we likely won’t be competing until year 3 of the deal anyways.
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Old 07-01-2024, 01:36 PM   #118
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Not a bad deal. Would have preferred one less year but its okay.
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Old 07-01-2024, 01:37 PM   #119
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He (Sharangovich) can continue to work on and improve his defensive game.

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Old 07-01-2024, 02:10 PM   #120
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My 2 cents on Kuzmenko, from listening to what Gonchar(development coach with VAN) had to say about him:
1. His defensive play is due to him never being taught proper system play.
2. Kuzmenko put in a ton of effort on his defensive game, which resulted in a drop in his offense, but he was still always doing it with a smile.
3. Kuzmenko is a pro, and his Defensive play will click eventually.
4. He only had 2 years in the NHL, and is still adjusting.

I'm a huge fan of the guy, and I think that he will work his behind off to become a more complete forward. If he figures it out he will become a star.
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