07-01-2024, 03:24 PM
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#261
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Powerplay Quarterback
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just got to let him go
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07-01-2024, 03:25 PM
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#262
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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It's possible that a change of scenery my be beneficial for his mental health. Maybe he just needs to turn the page and wants to start with a clean slate somewhere with more anonymity.
I don't know, I just don't think we should take it personally.
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07-01-2024, 03:28 PM
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#263
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Even more reason not to overpay
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How do we know he asked for a higher number?
for all we know, he didn't and hasn't signed because he still isn't sure if or where he wants to play. Maybe he isn't the villain everyone is assuming.
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07-01-2024, 03:28 PM
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#264
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.
I think we’ve seen his ceiling. I’m ok with moving on.
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We’ve seen every UFA’s ceiling. It’s a dangerous game. A win is considered getting your money’s worth.
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07-01-2024, 03:29 PM
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#265
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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I thought he looked pretty mediocre or even bad this season. I'm ok with moving on too. I don't think anyone will give him more of a chance than we did/would have.
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07-01-2024, 03:29 PM
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#266
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2007
Exp:  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
So give him whatever he wants? Conroy made him a fair offer (his words) he didnt take it. Even just renewing his previous contract would have been more than fair.
The days of players running the team are over, ask Lindholm...how about that 9x8 he wanted.
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Fair enough. I’m just saying it sucks because he was fun to watch and was pretty good.
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07-01-2024, 03:29 PM
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#267
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Franchise Player
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Cutthroat Conroy
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07-01-2024, 03:30 PM
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#268
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Franchise Player
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Conroy just said on the 960 that the door is not fully closed.
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07-01-2024, 03:30 PM
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#269
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2022
Exp:  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by All In Good Time
How do we know he asked for a higher number?
for all we know, he didn't and hasn't signed because he still isn't sure if or where he wants to play. Maybe he isn't the villain everyone is assuming.
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I remember they said at one point it wasn't definite that he wanted to play hockey anymore and thus signing him to anything more is a huge risk
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07-01-2024, 03:31 PM
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#270
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Franchise Player
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We shouldnt take it personally but I think the Flames made a fair offer and he got bad advice.
Bean is a former first and played 82 games last year was begging to play here. We need players that want to be on the Flames not players who are willing to stay if we overpay.
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07-01-2024, 03:34 PM
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#271
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
We’ve seen every UFA’s ceiling. It’s a dangerous game. A win is considered getting your money’s worth.
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I think he’s a little different given the strong year he had beside Tanev and then the uncertainty the last two seasons. There is more unknown there than your typical mid to late 20s ufa
But your point is generally taken.
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07-01-2024, 03:35 PM
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#272
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#1 Goaltender
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Dissapointed but I don't blame the Flames at all for being cautious. I think the Flames and their fans treated him very well throughout everything but he has earned the right to make his own decision. Will be interested to see where he ends up and what the contract is though.
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07-01-2024, 03:36 PM
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#273
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by All In Good Time
How do we know he asked for a higher number?
for all we know, he didn't and hasn't signed because he still isn't sure if or where he wants to play. Maybe he isn't the villain everyone is assuming.
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Craig said they offered him what they thought was fair and he wanted something else. He said he wanted to test the market. This is all public knowledge.
I never said villian I said bad advice. Playing a quarter of your previous contract is obviously a factor.
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07-01-2024, 03:37 PM
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#274
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First Line Centre
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He may just want a fresh start. It's all good.
No hard feelings from me.
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07-01-2024, 03:40 PM
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#275
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Craig said they offered him what they thought was fair and he wanted something else. He said he wanted to test the market. This is all public knowledge.
I never said villian I said bad advice. Playing a quarter of your previous contract is obviously a factor.
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I heard the interview too. All I'm saying is there's a possibility that "something else" means something other than money. That is perfectly fine and reasonable in my books. Perhaps he isn't sure that this is the best place for him to be.
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07-01-2024, 03:43 PM
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#276
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#1 Goaltender
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Too bad. Really wanted to see him stay with the flames and it seemed like he wanted to.
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07-01-2024, 03:47 PM
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#277
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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You have to think any contract offers he gets will come with a low base salary and a games played bonus structure.
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07-01-2024, 03:57 PM
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#278
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by All In Good Time
I heard the interview too. All I'm saying is there's a possibility that "something else" means something other than money. That is perfectly fine and reasonable in my books. Perhaps he isn't sure that this is the best place for him to be.
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Well a month ago he said "they know where my loyalty lies" and over the last couple days its been reported that he wants 2 years and a slight raise.
If true he got bad advice
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07-01-2024, 04:02 PM
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#280
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Maybe he can go to Columbus with Johnny and Monahan
According to capfriendly they only have 4 dmen right now. Weird
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