06-28-2024, 09:40 PM
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#1861
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
is Bedard not a prospect?
I think it should be about age, not number of games
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Nobody who has made the big club full time is a prospect.
Age is probably only a factor if you’re trying to figure which guys who haven’t made the team are still considered prospects.
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06-28-2024, 09:41 PM
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#1862
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Probably stuck driving someone somewhere
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This is starting to get into Treliving territory...
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06-28-2024, 09:42 PM
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#1863
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#1 Goaltender
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Would be amazing if they’re somehow terrible next year and lose their lottery pick in the McKenna draft. I doubt it but one major injury could ruin their whole season
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06-28-2024, 09:43 PM
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#1864
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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I was pretty surprised Chernyshov did not go in rnd 1.
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06-28-2024, 09:47 PM
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#1865
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8
Would be amazing if they’re somehow terrible next year and lose their lottery pick in the McKenna draft. I doubt it but one major injury could ruin their whole season
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They could stand to get a bit unlucky with the lottery.
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06-28-2024, 09:48 PM
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#1866
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Nobody who has made the big club full time is a prospect.
Age is probably only a factor if you’re trying to figure which guys who haven’t made the team are still considered prospects.
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You state this like a fact, but it is an opinion.
I consider all young players to be prospects, even while they start playing in the NHL.
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06-28-2024, 09:51 PM
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#1867
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
You state this like a fact, but it is an opinion.
I consider all young players to be prospects, even while they start playing in the NHL.
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That's literally not what a prospect is. If they're playing full time, they're not a prospect.
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06-28-2024, 09:53 PM
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#1868
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache
That's literally not what a prospect is. If they're playing full time, they're not a prospect.
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Again, according to your definition of prospect.
Do you consider Bedard a prospect? If not, your definition of a prospect is flawed.
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06-28-2024, 09:55 PM
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#1869
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Again, according to your definition of prospect.
Do you consider Bedard a prospect? If not, your definition of a prospect is flawed.
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Of course not. He played in the nhl all year.
According to everyone's definition. A prospect is a player playing In a development league. If he comes up to the nhl then goes back to a development league then he can be considered a prospect still but once they make the nhl full time they aren't a prospect anymore.
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06-28-2024, 09:58 PM
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#1870
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Quebec high school league is where they found him right?
And he ended up being an NHLer playing for multiple teams.
That's a better outcome than a good percentage of late 1st rounders.
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He's was the 21st pick and out of all the first round players he's 19th in games played. Ok pick in an awful draft imo.
The Nieuwendyk/best player of the draft was just Feaster Feastering
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06-28-2024, 10:02 PM
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#1871
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Had a lot of fun co-hosting a live draft show at bow river brewery tonight. Really love the Flames picks. Getting high upside guys with both picks. Home run.
Parekh, if he hits his potential, could be an impact player #1 D-man for this team. That is incredibly needed especially after the trades that happened this year. Need two potential top pairing guys, and we have one now. Just need to get another in the next year or two. Probably targetting D with the extra first we have next year.
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06-28-2024, 10:02 PM
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#1872
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
You state this like a fact, but it is an opinion.
I consider all young players to be prospects, even while they start playing in the NHL.
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Well, no. A player that has made the NHL full time is, by any definition, no longer a prospect.
You can argue what constitutes “full time,” (it has less to do with players that start playing in the NHL and more to do with the likelihood of them going back to the AHL for development, in my opinion) but once they’re in the NHL full time they’re not a prospect. And that includes Bedard, regardless of how you define “full time.” He’s already a star in the NHL, and you’re suggesting he’s still a prospect lol.
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06-28-2024, 10:03 PM
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#1873
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Again, according to your definition of prospect.
Do you consider Bedard a prospect? If not, your definition of a prospect is flawed.
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Bedard is absolutely 100% not a prospect
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06-28-2024, 10:04 PM
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#1874
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Franchise Player
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Of course Bedard is still a prospect - he is no where near his potential yet. Nor do we even know if he is finished growing.
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06-28-2024, 10:12 PM
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#1875
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Seeing Becket Sennecke's reaction was awesome. It is so rare these days to see a prospect genuinely shocked when they are drafted.
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06-28-2024, 10:14 PM
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#1876
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Of course Bedard is still a prospect - he is no where near his potential yet. Nor do we even know if he is finished growing.
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okay so literally everyone's a prospect then lol
you're never going to know when bedard is "finished growing". there's not going to be like a download complete pop up letting you know he's maxed out his potential
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06-28-2024, 10:15 PM
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#1877
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SixtySix
okay so literally everyone's a prospect then lol
you're never going to know when bedard is "finished growing". there's not going to be like a download complete pop up letting you know he's maxed out his potential
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that's why you put an age cap on it
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06-28-2024, 10:16 PM
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#1878
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Vernon, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
What a dumb trade! There pick will be better in those years...also they will not have deadline ammunition
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Lol, I can only imagine they made this trade so they could slot him into the #1pp next year
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06-28-2024, 10:20 PM
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#1879
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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The Athletic's Scott Wheeler lists the Flames among his "winners" for round 1.
His other winners are Montreal, Minnesota, Sharks, Blackhawks, Islanders, and Dallas
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/558...shared_article
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Winners: Teams I believe won out over their competition with consistent, sleuth, home-run-level selections relative to where they picked.
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06-28-2024, 10:20 PM
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#1880
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Participant 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Of course Bedard is still a prospect - he is no where near his potential yet. Nor do we even know if he is finished growing.
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That’s not what a prospect is. That’s a player who is still developing, which includes guys into their 30s. The amount players develop is just higher when they’re younger.
A prospect is a “prospective NHLer.” That’s all it means. That’s why some guys stop being prospects before they make the NHL, because at a certain point they’re no longer prospective NHLers.
I know this is going to be a weird thing you get hung up on, but you’re just wrong. It’s not a difference of opinion, you are just literally wrong, and that’s OK.
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