[Trade] Van trades Mikheyev (15% ret), rights to Lafferty, and 2025 2nd to Chi for a 2027 4th

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Isn't this why the Sens lost their first round pick in the Evgenii Dadonov deal? Since there were problems with his no-trade clause.

The Sens screwed up because they told the NHL that Dadonov's limited NTC was invalidated because the player did not submit a no trade list in time when they traded Dadonov to Vegas.

This caused problems when Vegas tried to trade Dadonov to the Ducks because the Ducks were on Dadonov's no trade list and the league had to nullify the trade when the agent showed proof that the list was submitted in time.

[Macho0978]

I like this trade but the Flames have enough bodies. It’s better to focus on trading Mangiapane or Rasmus and take the bad contract back in a deal involving them rather than add a 2nd for a bad contract.

Chicago and SJ already full tanked and got their guys and their rosters are so bad they can add these types of players.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by blankall

Another issue is that it blocks a development spot. If the Flames are acquiring players like Mikheyev, they also likely plan on playing them. The Flames should be giving those spots to the kids.

We'll have plenty of room for kids to play in the next few years, and if there's enough kids playing well that we don't have enough room, then trade another vet or two.

That should not be the tie up on taking advantage of cap
space in trades. This is something that teams must be doing when they're rebuilding, imo. More bullets in the chamber

[Locke]

Who? And why does he have an NTC?

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Locke

Who? And why does he have an NTC?

Edmonton exists by the way

[butterfly]

Put them in the press box with a popcorn chef.

If you have an opportunity to buy a pick, do it at the right price. $10M + 4th rounder for a 2nd rounder is a horrible price.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

And then that team could not trade him subsequently, that is why they lost their first round pick. Almost incredible that the NHL does not have a central database of contracts with their terms. But here we are, 6 billion dollar business that does not know that information.

Look, the NHL's fax machine is an old guy with a quill pen who listens to the incoming squeals on the phone and jots it all down on a notepad.

Now you expect him to be a database too?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by blankall

I think it's still a bit of a pipe dream to expect the owners to throw away millions for draft picks. They're probably sour enough with retention on Markstrom, paying Huberdeau to lead a losing a team, and dealing with a less than full stadium.

Yeah I don’t know how sad billionaires are at the chance to declare a loss at tax time.

Seems better than Viagra for them.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Yeah I don’t know how sad billionaires are at the chance to declare a loss at tax time.

They're sad if they had to lose actual money to do it.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Look, the NHL's fax machine is an old guy with a quill pen who listens to the incoming squeals on the phone and jots it all down on a notepad.

Now you expect him to be a database too?

He dresses in a robe with a sash and rides about town in a horse-drawn cart with a license plate that reads 'Fax Man' asking people if they have change for a Farthing.

[sureLoss]

Oh. Canucks might be giving Mikheyev an option here. Apparently have another trade lined up

https://twitter.com/user/status/1806136130196398321

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

They're sad if they had to lose actual money to do it.

You can’t hear it but I’m sawing the #### out of the world’s tiniest violin.

[Toonage]

^^ By gawd that's (probably) Craig Conroy's music!

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I don't think you understand how this trade works.

How so? Chicago basically gets an awful contract and 10 million dollars in bad money and a 2nd rounder while also giving up a 4th rounder.

I hope Flames don't make these bad deals. 10 million needs to be worth more than the pleasure of drafting in the 2nd round.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

How so? Chicago basically gets an awful contract and 10 million dollars in bad money for a 2nd rounder while also giving up a 4th rounder.

I hope Flames don't make these bad deals. 10 million needs to be worth more than the pleasure of drafting in the 2nd round.

It is worth more than that. Mikheyev may have rescued Chicago.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

How so? Chicago basically gets an awful contract and 10 million dollars in bad money and a 2nd rounder while also giving up a 4th rounder.

I hope Flames don't make these bad deals. 10 million needs to be worth more than the pleasure of drafting in the 2nd round.

Mikheyev did have 31 points last year recovering from a knee injury. Even if you still figure 1 million for every 10 points, that makes him a 3 million dollar player making 4.75. That's not awful, it's just a little overpaid, and CHicago has a ton of cap space and Bedard is on his ELC for two more seasons, so the contract is not harming them at all.


And if he pulls a Dickinson and rebounds with more ice-time and another year of recovery, they can probably turn him into another asset at some point.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Toonage

^^ By gawd that's (probably) Craig Conroy's music!

His fetish for Russians remains strong and insatiable.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Ped

Mikheyev did have 31 points last year recovering from a knee injury. Even if you still figure 1 million for every 10 points, that makes him a 3 million dollar player making 4.75. That's not awful, it's just a little overpaid, and CHicago has a ton of cap space and Bedard is on his ELC for two more seasons, so the contract is not harming them at all.


And if he pulls a Dickinson and rebounds with more ice-time and another year of recovery, they can probably turn him into another asset at some point.

Bedard was almost PPG as an 18-year-old and could hit 90 points next year. Chicago should be throwing 1xHuge Money contracts at people to take advantage of these cheap ELC years, not fooling around with these types of trades.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Locke

Who? And why does he have an NTC?

Vancouver is no good.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Bedard was almost PPG as an 18-year-old and could hit 90 points next year. Chicago should be throwing 1xHuge Money contracts at people to take advantage of these cheap ELC years, not fooling around with these types of trades.

You almost never see these ‘1xHuge Money’ contracts. Mostly, I think, because any player who's remotely worth the money has multiple offers with term coming in, and would prefer the deal with more total dollars.