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				No....no we are not. 
			
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I have a very good Italian friend (you might know him) who revels in the disparaging terms for Italians. I'll be texting him back and forth as we watch the game.
 
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			06-24-2024, 11:55 AM
			
			
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			Detailed article on the tiebreaker rules for 1st and 2nd in groups, the top 4 3rd place finishers and the outcomes for each group and how each team can advance.  
Spain have won group B. Italy need a win or draw. Albania and Croatia’s paths are core complicated but they both need a win with some caveats. 
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			06-24-2024, 01:02 PM
			
			
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				Detailed article on the tiebreaker rules for 1st and 2nd in groups, the top 4 3rd place finishers and the outcomes for each group and how each team can advance.  
Spain have won group B. Italy need a win or draw. Albania and Croatia’s paths are core complicated but they both need a win with some caveats. 
 https://www.uefa.com/euro2024/news/0...oups-qualifyi/ 
			
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Honestly I hate this whole third place team thing.
 
Either just add 8 more teams and do 8 groups instead of 6. 
 
Or keep the 24 teams and do 8 groups of 3 or something and only take the group winners.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2024, 01:08 PM
			
			
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				Honestly I hate this whole third place team thing. 
 
Either just add 8 more teams and do 8 groups instead of 6.  
 
Or keep the 24 teams and do 8 groups of 3 or something and only take the group winners. 
			
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They will get to 32 before too long. No way they can do 8 groups of 3. Groups of 3 suck and that's only a 30 game tournament instead of 52.
 
They tried it once in 1982, six groups of 4 (top 2), then 4 groups of 3 (group winners), semifinals and final. Ended up with the famous group of Brazil, Argentina and Italy, i'm sure you recall!
 
Also, people love knockout football.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-24-2024, 01:14 PM
			
			
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				They will get to 32 before too long. No way they can do 8 groups of 3. Groups of 3 suck and that's only a 30 game tournament instead of 52. 
 
They tried it once in 1982, six groups of 4 (top 2), then 4 groups of 3 (group winners), semifinals and final. Ended up with the famous group of Brazil, Argentina and Italy, i'm sure you recall! 
 
Also, people love knockout football. 
			
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They really should have just expanded to 32...enough talent in Europe to do it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2024, 01:18 PM
			
			
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				They really should have just expanded to 32...enough talent in Europe to do it. 
			
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Considering the goddamned fight Albania have been putting up??   
I really felt that expanding the tournament would water it down to nonsense, but some of the Minnow teams are changing my mind, Albania in particular. 
 
Hell...how did Scotland even qualify? Worst team at this Euros so far and its not even close.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-24-2024, 01:45 PM
			
			
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				Honestly I hate this whole third place team thing. 
 
Either just add 8 more teams and do 8 groups instead of 6.  
 
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Agreed on the 3rd place thing. It punishes good groups and benefits weaker groups. It’s dumb.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2024, 02:12 PM
			
			
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			Tournaments don't want big teams going out, 3rd place is a safety net. And they want more randomness of knockout football, and big teams meeting each other early. 
 
The World Cup used this system 3 times, 86, 90, and 94. In 86, 3rd placed Belgium made the semis and in 90 and 94, 3rd placed Argentina and Italy made the final respectively. 
 
The Euros have used this system now twice. 2016, 3rd placed Portugal won it all.  In 2020, 3 of the 4 beat Group winners but all lost their next match.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-24-2024, 03:13 PM
			
			
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			Croatia have been one of the worst teams in the tournament, hopefully they don't sneak through.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-24-2024, 03:17 PM
			
			
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			what a wild sequence.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2024, 03:17 PM
			
			
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			Wow! The little Magic Man! That was a terrible Pen but he makes up for it!  
 
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			06-24-2024, 03:24 PM
			
			
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				Croatia have been one of the worst teams in the tournament, hopefully they don't sneak through. 
			
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			06-24-2024, 03:27 PM
			
			
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				Oh ya? 
			
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			06-24-2024, 03:28 PM
			
			
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			this tournament mode is so stupid. I just checked the live table, saw Italy in third place with 3 points and -1 GD and thought to myself "yeah, that'll probably be enough". So dumb.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2024, 03:29 PM
			
			
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They had an xG of 0.04 prior to the penalty, they were ass for most of this game and haven't been particularly good in either of the other two games. Not a huge fan of them progressing and trying to defend their way to a win, but that's just me (and most people to be fair).
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-24-2024, 03:30 PM
			
			
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				they had an xg of 0.04 prior to the penalty, they were ass for most of this game and haven't been particularly good in either of the other two games. 
			
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			06-24-2024, 03:32 PM
			
			
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				this tournament mode is so stupid. I just checked the live table, saw Italy in third place with 3 points and -1 GD and thought to myself "yeah, that'll probably be enough". So dumb. 
			
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I think Italy would actually clinch.
 
Hungary is -3 and if the Czechs beat the Turks, the Turks would be -3.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-24-2024, 03:33 PM
			
			
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yeah, that's what I meant. But they shouldn't ... clinching after losing 2 out of 3 is just dumb.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2024, 03:46 PM
			
			
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			Yeah this format really sucks, Italy are probably better off taking this 1-0 loss than trying to tie and risk losing 2-0, which would probably knock them out.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-24-2024, 03:56 PM
			
			
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			omg 
 
last second goal to tie it up. Ouch.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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