06-24-2024, 10:11 AM
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#461
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
No....no we are not.
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I have a very good Italian friend (you might know him) who revels in the disparaging terms for Italians. I'll be texting him back and forth as we watch the game.
Go Croatia!
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06-24-2024, 10:55 AM
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#462
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Detailed article on the tiebreaker rules for 1st and 2nd in groups, the top 4 3rd place finishers and the outcomes for each group and how each team can advance.
Spain have won group B. Italy need a win or draw. Albania and Croatia’s paths are core complicated but they both need a win with some caveats.
https://www.uefa.com/euro2024/news/0...oups-qualifyi/
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06-24-2024, 12:02 PM
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#463
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Detailed article on the tiebreaker rules for 1st and 2nd in groups, the top 4 3rd place finishers and the outcomes for each group and how each team can advance.
Spain have won group B. Italy need a win or draw. Albania and Croatia’s paths are core complicated but they both need a win with some caveats.
https://www.uefa.com/euro2024/news/0...oups-qualifyi/
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Honestly I hate this whole third place team thing.
Either just add 8 more teams and do 8 groups instead of 6.
Or keep the 24 teams and do 8 groups of 3 or something and only take the group winners.
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06-24-2024, 12:08 PM
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#464
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Honestly I hate this whole third place team thing.
Either just add 8 more teams and do 8 groups instead of 6.
Or keep the 24 teams and do 8 groups of 3 or something and only take the group winners.
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They will get to 32 before too long. No way they can do 8 groups of 3. Groups of 3 suck and that's only a 30 game tournament instead of 52.
They tried it once in 1982, six groups of 4 (top 2), then 4 groups of 3 (group winners), semifinals and final. Ended up with the famous group of Brazil, Argentina and Italy, i'm sure you recall!
Also, people love knockout football.
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06-24-2024, 12:14 PM
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#465
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
They will get to 32 before too long. No way they can do 8 groups of 3. Groups of 3 suck and that's only a 30 game tournament instead of 52.
They tried it once in 1982, six groups of 4 (top 2), then 4 groups of 3 (group winners), semifinals and final. Ended up with the famous group of Brazil, Argentina and Italy, i'm sure you recall!
Also, people love knockout football.
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They really should have just expanded to 32...enough talent in Europe to do it.
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06-24-2024, 12:18 PM
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#466
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
They really should have just expanded to 32...enough talent in Europe to do it.
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Considering the goddamned fight Albania have been putting up??
I really felt that expanding the tournament would water it down to nonsense, but some of the Minnow teams are changing my mind, Albania in particular.
Hell...how did Scotland even qualify? Worst team at this Euros so far and its not even close.
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06-24-2024, 12:45 PM
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#467
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Honestly I hate this whole third place team thing.
Either just add 8 more teams and do 8 groups instead of 6.
Or keep the 24 teams and do 8 groups of 3 or something and only take the group winners.
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Agreed on the 3rd place thing. It punishes good groups and benefits weaker groups. It’s dumb.
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06-24-2024, 01:12 PM
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#468
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Tournaments don't want big teams going out, 3rd place is a safety net. And they want more randomness of knockout football, and big teams meeting each other early.
The World Cup used this system 3 times, 86, 90, and 94. In 86, 3rd placed Belgium made the semis and in 90 and 94, 3rd placed Argentina and Italy made the final respectively.
The Euros have used this system now twice. 2016, 3rd placed Portugal won it all. In 2020, 3 of the 4 beat Group winners but all lost their next match.
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Last edited by GirlySports; 06-24-2024 at 01:16 PM.
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06-24-2024, 02:13 PM
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#469
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Croatia have been one of the worst teams in the tournament, hopefully they don't sneak through.
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06-24-2024, 02:17 PM
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#470
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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what a wild sequence.
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06-24-2024, 02:17 PM
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#471
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Wow! The little Magic Man! That was a terrible Pen but he makes up for it!
Game. On.
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06-24-2024, 02:24 PM
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#472
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Croatia have been one of the worst teams in the tournament, hopefully they don't sneak through.
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Oh ya?
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06-24-2024, 02:27 PM
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#473
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
Oh ya?
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Only 3 things in life are certain - Death , Taxes, and Senator having wrong takes on sports
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06-24-2024, 02:28 PM
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#474
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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this tournament mode is so stupid. I just checked the live table, saw Italy in third place with 3 points and -1 GD and thought to myself "yeah, that'll probably be enough". So dumb.
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06-24-2024, 02:29 PM
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#475
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason14h
Only 3 things in life are certain - Death , Taxes, and Senator having wrong takes on sports
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They had an xG of 0.04 prior to the penalty, they were ass for most of this game and haven't been particularly good in either of the other two games. Not a huge fan of them progressing and trying to defend their way to a win, but that's just me (and most people to be fair).
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06-24-2024, 02:30 PM
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#476
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by senator clay davis
they had an xg of 0.04 prior to the penalty, they were ass for most of this game and haven't been particularly good in either of the other two games.
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ok.
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06-24-2024, 02:32 PM
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#477
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
this tournament mode is so stupid. I just checked the live table, saw Italy in third place with 3 points and -1 GD and thought to myself "yeah, that'll probably be enough". So dumb.
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I think Italy would actually clinch.
Hungary is -3 and if the Czechs beat the Turks, the Turks would be -3.
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06-24-2024, 02:33 PM
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#478
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
I think Italy would actually clinch.
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yeah, that's what I meant. But they shouldn't ... clinching after losing 2 out of 3 is just dumb.
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06-24-2024, 02:46 PM
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#479
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Yeah this format really sucks, Italy are probably better off taking this 1-0 loss than trying to tie and risk losing 2-0, which would probably knock them out.
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06-24-2024, 02:56 PM
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#480
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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omg
last second goal to tie it up. Ouch.
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