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View Poll Results: Reaction to the trade?
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06-19-2024, 05:06 PM
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#721
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
You've been had. You can usually get a promo subscription renewal for $10-15/year if you keep an eye out around your renewal time.
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Yeah. My monthy cheap promo subscription was about to expire so I clicked the non-renewal box and they immediately offered to make it $10 for the year (instead of for the month).
Worth it at that price.
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06-19-2024, 05:07 PM
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#722
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First Line Centre
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Don't love the deal. I am willing to wait to pass judgement though as the pro scouts have found a few gems last season in kuzmenko, miromanov and sharangovich
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06-19-2024, 05:07 PM
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#723
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I always believed a fully retained Markstromw.as worth 10th overall by itself. In a bidding war you get a Bahl in there
In no way was Markstrom.getting 10th overall without full retention.
Long and Short of it, I think the value is on par with what I figured was a fair trade at full retention.
31 percent retention gets you a prospect and a later year 1st. Could have done without the top 10 protection but that's the cost of doing business I suppose.
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06-19-2024, 05:12 PM
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#724
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Can we get a poll please mods. Is Conroy a wizard or the worst person ever to exist. There is no grey.
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06-19-2024, 05:13 PM
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#725
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I believe in the Jays.
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Originally Posted by blankall
This almost certainly turns the Flames from an 8-14 type finish next year to a bottom 5. From a rebuild perspective this is exactly what they need.
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Frankly I think it wouldn't be a bad idea if Roger McQueen started keeping his eyes on the Calgary apartment rental market now.
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06-19-2024, 05:24 PM
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#726
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
Except that's not what I said.
I said he's closer to fleury than schneider, which he was.
No Mercer, no Holtz, no top 10 pick.
But now I'm sure it's time to vastly overrate kevin bahl from where you all had him 12 hours ago.
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You got an old, expensive, inconsistent goalie who some have indicated may have a chronic groin injury
And
We got a first and a young defender with some promise
Is that your point?
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06-19-2024, 05:26 PM
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#727
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Would have preferred an unprotected pick or at worst just lottery protected . But like Kevin Bahl. He's huge, uses his size well and still a lot of room to improve at 23.
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Isn’t that what this is?
It’s actually better than lottery protected if it’s top ten protected.
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06-19-2024, 05:26 PM
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#728
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Dec 2021
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Originally Posted by Parallex
Yeah. My monthy cheap promo subscription was about to expire so I clicked the non-renewal box and they immediately offered to make it $10 for the year (instead of for the month).
Worth it at that price.
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If you have Apple News+ or Apple One the Athletic is included
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06-19-2024, 05:30 PM
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#729
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
Yes if the flames got a significantly more valuable asset they would have gotten a better grade.
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Are you here to gloat like its a fleecing for either team? There's significant risk for the Devils but I doubt you'll be back here posting if Markstrom has a bad season.
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06-19-2024, 05:39 PM
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#730
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
Yes if the flames got a significantly more valuable asset they would have gotten a better grade.
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You’re an idiot. Go back to Oilers.com
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06-19-2024, 05:45 PM
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#731
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by FBI
Can we get a flow chart for the trade with panthers and Montreal conditions? That would help me understand it way better.
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If the Flames are good but not as good as Florida, Montreal gets Calgary’s pick.
If the Flames are bad and Florida is good, Montreal gets Florida’s pick.
If the Flames are good and Florida is bad, Montreal gets Calgary’s pick. Unless it’s 1st overall.
If the Flames are bad and Florida is bad, Montreal gets Calgary’s pick, unless it’s 1st overall.
If the Flames are mediocre and Florida is mediocre, Montreal gets the better pick.
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06-19-2024, 05:45 PM
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#732
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damn onions
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Don’t really love that it’s top 10 protected if we’re retaining salary. That should maybe be top 3 protected or something. It’s an okay deal, I’m glad they pulled the trigger and at some point negotiations have to end and as long as it’s reasonably fair it’s fine. It fits a good strategy, which I like.
I wonder if CGY instead of saying “a pick and a prospect” (presuming that’s what was said) just said “as high a pick as possible”. Bahl doesn’t move a needle, but potentially moving from 11th overall to 7th or something might, basically, would giving up Bahl in the deal lead to NJ relinquish the requirement for the pick being top 10 protected?
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06-19-2024, 05:47 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
If the Flames are good but not as good as Florida, Montreal gets Calgary’s pick.
If the Flames are bad and Florida is good, Montreal gets Florida’s pick.
If the Flames are good and Florida is bad, Montreal gets Calgary’s pick. Unless it’s 1st overall.
If the Flames are bad and Florida is bad, Montreal gets Calgary’s pick, unless it’s 1st overall.
If the Flames are mediocre and Florida is mediocre, Montreal gets the better pick.
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Sorry I'm still going to need this in hand puppet format.
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06-19-2024, 05:59 PM
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Don't like the return. Over 4m retained is worth 2/3 of that 1st rounder. But....I don't like markstrom much and don't think he's worth alot anyway. Excited for more Wolf.
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06-19-2024, 06:05 PM
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#735
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
If the Flames are good but not as good as Florida, Montreal gets Calgary’s pick.
If the Flames are bad and Florida is good, Montreal gets Florida’s pick.
If the Flames are good and Florida is bad, Montreal gets Calgary’s pick. Unless it’s 1st overall.
If the Flames are bad and Florida is bad, Montreal gets Calgary’s pick, unless it’s 1st overall.
If the Flames are mediocre and Florida is mediocre, Montreal gets the better pick.
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#### Treliving
Going to lose sleep tanking next year
Has any GM done more damage when he left the team?
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06-19-2024, 06:19 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Pretty much what I expected which, piggybacking on Scorp’s suggestion, was 2025 1st Bahl or Bahl type prospect and Allen back as a cap dump.
The protection isn’t a big deal in my mind. Will most likely be a pick between 11-25. I. The same way I expect the Flames will be bottom 10 without Markstrom, I would think the devils will finish outside of the bottom 10.
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06-19-2024, 06:20 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Sec214
I got a text from a one of the scouts I communicate regularly with who said Flames win this deal 2x on Sunday.
"KB is Big, Mean and Still hasn't flushed out his body or skating. Defensively sound. He's on tough SOB and makes a really good first pass. 6'6 230 at 230, He's well conditioned and committed to improving his game and He will protect some of those high skilled smaller D flames have like Hunter Brzustewicz <Insert Drool Emoji> ...Tell the people in your neighborhood they probably just got Robyn Regehr."
Follow up text.
"Our group is jealous, because they were told he wasnt available"
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Love this. You tube shows his scraps . He holds his own. Better fighter than Regher.
Conroy immediately said he's a Zadorov comparison but younger and likely more upside In terms of he's got more upside....he hits like Regher and Z and looks more mobile than both.
Guy hasn't even stepped on the ice yet and people are bithcing. We need an Engelland type player on the back end that can do it all without hesitation and he checks allot of boxes according to Connie himself.
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06-19-2024, 06:24 PM
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#739
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
If the Flames are good but not as good as Florida, Montreal gets Calgary’s pick.
If the Flames are bad and Florida is good, Montreal gets Florida’s pick.
If the Flames are good and Florida is bad, Montreal gets Calgary’s pick. Unless it’s 1st overall.
If the Flames are bad and Florida is bad, Montreal gets Calgary’s pick, unless it’s 1st overall.
If the Flames are mediocre and Florida is mediocre, Montreal gets the better pick.
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The real question is puckpedia or capfriendly right.
Sites are mixed if it is top ten or lottery protected. Top ten protected then no issues, if it it lottery protected then it is a lot less comfy.
https://thewincolumn.ca/2022/07/23/t...kenzie-weegar/
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06-19-2024, 06:25 PM
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#740
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by dgibb10
Yep and he was much closer to the fleury price than the schneider price.
37th overall is the estimated cost of 4 mill. That more than cancels out Bahl.
And a 2025 1st (minus slightly) is actually significantly closer in value to nothing (Fleury) than it is a top 10 pick.
Anyway, enjoy Mercer, Holtz, Top 10 pick, and not having to retain. Oh wait
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You’re awfully desperate for attention. Like a typical Oiler fan.
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