Tij Iginla ranked No. 10 overall by Bob McKenzie for 2024 NHL Draft

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I don't know how everyone here can say iggy has a low ceiling when his draft year was better than his father's, and his father became one of the best power forwards of all time? Tij could grow this/next summer, his play style is already tenacious... why undersell potential upside? If Dallas had known he'd become what he did they would have never traded him for example.
Imo tij has the same upside as his dad, who knows if he can reach it.

Every year there's a handful of draft prospects in the CHL that have produced more points than Jarome did in his draft year. Every single year since he's been drafted and there's still only one Jarome Iginla. Just because his son put up more points than his dad did in the 90's as a junior it means absolutely nothing as Tij's production is relevant only to other top prospects where he's not exactly put up elite junior numbers. The reality here is that Tij had another last name he wouldn't have his own thread here nor would many be clamoring to take him at 9.

[shutout]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Try ‘I can agree with the experts or with randos on the Internet. Hmm, which should I choose?’

Originally Posted by Bingo

Updates again.

Current top 13 with ledges

1	M Celebrini	C	1.00

2	Ivan Demidov	RW	2.71

3	A Levshunov	D	4.52

4	Zeev Buium	D	6.81
5	Sam Dickinson	D	6.95
6	C Lindstrom	C	7.29
7	Berkly Catton	C	7.43

8	Zayne Parekh	D	8.43
9	Anton Silayev	D	9.05

10	Konsta Helenius	C	10.10
11	Tij Iginla	        C	10.52
12	Cole Eiserman	LW	10.57

13	C Yakemchuk	D	12.95

Then look at Bingo's list and see where they have Iginla ranked.
On average he is the 11th ranked prospect.
Which means if you are going to follow the "experts" instead of being a rando you should be looking for the Flames to take two other players ahead of Iginla.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by shutout

Then look at Bingo's list and see where they have Iginla ranked.
On average he is the 11th ranked prospect.
Which means if you are going to follow the "experts" instead of being a rando you should be looking for the Flames to take two other players ahead of Iginla.

OK, where in all that does it say that Iginla has a low ceiling? Because that is the statement that Jiri was mocking a poster for disagreeing with.

[Monahammer]

Y'all are acting like genetics has nothing to do with sports ability when that's clearly and obviously wrong.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Every year there's a handful of draft prospects in the CHL that have produced more points than Jarome did in his draft year. Every single year since he's been drafted and there's still only one Jarome Iginla. Just because his son put up more points than his dad did in the 90's as a junior it means absolutely nothing as Tij's production is relevant only to other top prospects where he's not exactly put up elite junior numbers. The reality here is that Tij had another last name he wouldn't have his own thread here nor would many be clamoring to take him at 9.

This is exactly the point though. A guy who had a better season than our best ever player, is the genetic descendant of said player, and was raised/ coached to play hockey by said player.

I think it would be insane not to bet on him playing like his dad, and finding success the same way.

[CsInMyBlood]

I find it funny when people trot out the, "If he wasn't an Iginla you wouldnt be talking about him" line.

Genetics are a thing. The values you are raised with are a thing. The things you learn from your father are a thing.

These things definitely raise his stock but he also has the talent, work ethic and drive as a hockey player which he has done on his own. It's not like hes made it this far because his dad is Jarome Iginla.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Y'all are acting like genetics has nothing to do with sports ability when that's clearly and obviously wrong.

I can give you a very long list of star players relatives, brothers, children, etc... who didn't amount to a hill of beans.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Y'all are acting like genetics has nothing to do with sports ability when that's clearly and obviously wrong.

If it had such a bearing in the NHL, why can you count the number of notable NHL father/son duos on one hand?

I'd be fine with drafting Tij for a variety of reasons, but if Tij has a successful career following his father that is the exception, not the norm.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Groot

If it had such a bearing in the NHL, why can you count the number of notable NHL father/son duos on one hand?

I'd be fine with drafting Tij for a variety of reasons, but if Tij has a successful career following his father that is the exception, not the norm.

Isnt Satans kid in this draft? First rounder obviously missed by everyone.

Not directed at you.
Yes lineage has some value but i project him as top six winger possibly top line wing.

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Isnt Satans kid in this draft? First rounder obviously missed by everyone.

Not directed at you.
Yes lineage has some value but i project him as top six winger possibly top line wing.

Did Satans kid have the progression and year that Iginla did?

Nobody is saying just because Jarome is his dad is the reason he is good, but it's an added fact to factor into what the kid is all about.

Best part is we get to actually see how his career pans out. I have the feeling he is going to be one of the very best players taken in 2024 and any teams that pass on him will be full of regret.

Again time will tell.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Fan69

Isnt Satans kid in this draft? First rounder obviously missed by everyone.

Not directed at you.
Yes lineage has some value but i project him as top six winger possibly top line wing.

[dino7c]

considering the loooong odds of making the NHL there are a lot of father/son NHL combos. If Iginla is there at 9 he is likely the BPA to me, its not like he would be a fourth rounder if his name was John Smith. The whole Iginla thing would just be a bonus. Its not like its an off the board pick, I have been hearing for months now there is "No way!" he is there at 9.

[Naitix]

From what I heard, Flames don’t think Iginla will make it to 9th and I don’t think he will either

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Naitix

From what I heard, Flames don’t think Iginla will make it to 9th and I don’t think he will either

There's gonna be a smorgasbord to choose from at 9 that will fit any taste the Flames may have. A couple of centers, a couple of D men, a winger or two maybe. Still holding hope they acquire the 10th overall.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Naitix

From what I heard, Flames don’t think Iginla will make it to 9th and I don’t think he will either

And yet the majority of draft analysts do. I have heard nothing whatsoever that the Flames don't think Iginla will be there at 9. On the contrary most of what I have heard is that nobody is certain who is taking what after pick #1.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

And yet the majority of draft analysts do. I have heard nothing whatsoever that the Flames don't think Iginla will be there at 9. On the contrary most of what I have heard is that nobody is certain who is taking what after pick #1.

I think there's far to much attention on him to last to 9, I think Columbus wants Parekh but if he's gone don't be surprised if they take Tij, and of course there's a lot of smoke around Montreal and Ottawa as well.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Naitix

From what I heard, Flames don’t think Iginla will make it to 9th and I don’t think he will either

There are a few wildcards not universally ranked as top 10 or even 15 picks that could be picked in the top 10 creating some chaos. It's an intriguing first round as there are so many potential outcomes and high chance of a surprise or two in the top 10. Hopefully the Flames are in a position to capitalize on some high ranked players falling in their lap.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I see Tij as a catalyst out there, with the tools, motor and IQ to be a top-end player that becomes a part of a successful core. If he reverts back to C next season and continues being this catalyst, it will only be a massive win. If you don't see him as that catalyst, but just a good all-round player, then you probably don't see him as a top 10 player this draft.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

This is exactly the point though. A guy who had a better season than our best ever player, is the genetic descendant of said player, and was raised/ coached to play hockey by said player.

I think it would be insane not to bet on him playing like his dad, and finding success the same way.

This is not lost on the experts who have pegged him as the #11 rated prospect.

Are they all insane?

[Jason14h]

A prospects rating is not the same as a mock order/mock draft