Tij Iginla ranked No. 10 overall by Bob McKenzie for 2024 NHL Draft

[Erick Estrada]

He’s a safe pick. There’s nothing about his stats that point to a ceiling higher than Catton or Parekh. He’s a high compete player with a great shot. In essence the same draft profile as Coronato. I don’t think it’s even debatable that those players have a higher ceiling based on the seasons they just have. Both are in elite company.

[Flamesfan05]

Catton will either be a star or a bust. There is no between

Iginla is a safer bet with lower ceiling

[Erick Estrada]

I’m not sure Catton is boom or bust. He’s a great skater and many say the highest hockey sense in the draft. I think if he isn’t a star he still has a chance at quality middle six forward. Iginla looks like he will be a top 6 winger at worst and a high end complementary winger as his ceiling.

[1qqaaz]

Catton has high energy and a solid two way game. He's smaller, but he still has some intangibles.

A good prospect overall. My only concern is that if he were on the Flames, he would try to do too much. Johnny often exhibited this fault as well.

[theslymonkey]

To me, Catton smells like Briere or Parise. At #9 that's a fantastic pick if he turns out.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by theslymonkey

To me, Catton smells like Briere or Parise. At #9 that's a fantastic pick if he turns out.

my dream scenario is still to get 9 and 10. Walk out if round one with catton, one if the high end defencemen and i love Bedouin at 28 but have to admit artamanov is really intriguing. Just don’t think Bedouin gets to our second and i think Bedouin is a surefire nhl center; all the tools are there.

[Monahammer]

I don't know how everyone here can say iggy has a low ceiling when his draft year was better than his father's, and his father became one of the best power forwards of all time? Tij could grow this/next summer, his play style is already tenacious... why undersell potential upside? If Dallas had known he'd become what he did they would have never traded him for example.
Imo tij has the same upside as his dad, who knows if he can reach it.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by shutout

How is it obvious?
To say don’t take a defenseman just take the BPA makes no sense.
Flames probably have six defenseman in their top ten.
They may have all six of them ahead of Iginla.

Regardless of who they pick there will be someone not happy because they had another BPA available when the flames were picking.

The Flames have a ranked list so BPA would be the highest ranked player on their list that is still available at their pick.

Regardless of other lists or how fans feel, they should be taking the highest ranked player on their list. Otherwise what's the point of all that scouting, meeting, etc.

With the 9th pick I don't think position should come into play. They need players everywhere and you want to give yourself the highest probability of drafting a star.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I don't know how everyone here can say iggy has a low ceiling when his draft year was better than his father's, and his father became one of the best power forwards of all time? Tij could grow this/next summer, his play style is already tenacious... why undersell potential upside? If Dallas had known he'd become what he did they would have never traded him for example.
Imo tij has the same upside as his dad, who knows if he can reach it.

It could be that those claiming he has a low ceiling are just ordinary fans; You know people that work in restaurants, unemployed, or have jobs that have nothing to do with hockey. Stats and trends are important but a lot of times it's just people posting opinions that appear to be factual.

I think looking at his stats and comparables with his dad are good indicators. But I don't understand how people can claim to know what his ceiling is when it's probably based off of opinions, stuff they've heard from somewhere.

Do we have some stats or comparables to determine what his actual ceiling is? Maybe someone with hockey experience can explain it, cuz I honestly don't understand how we arrive at these high or low ceiling indicators?

[cral12]

Iginla comes in at #5 in our final rankings which just went live...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1802069870663684486

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

It could be that those claiming he has a low ceiling are just ordinary fans; You know people that work in restaurants, unemployed, or have jobs that have nothing to do with hockey. Stats and trends are important but a lot of times it's just people posting opinions that appear to be factual.

lol. Another example of "I don't agree so surely it must because the other person knows less than me".

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I don't know how everyone here can say iggy has a low ceiling when his draft year was better than his father's, and his father became one of the best power forwards of all time.

Because Tij is not Jarome and people shouldn't act like he is. Folk can argue about his ceiling and floor to their hearts content but Jarome is completely immaterial to that. He's not his dad and should be judged on his own merits not his father's merits.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

It could be that those claiming he has a low ceiling are just ordinary fans; You know people that work in restaurants, unemployed, or have jobs that have nothing to do with hockey. Stats and trends are important but a lot of times it's just people posting opinions that appear to be factual.

I think looking at his stats and comparables with his dad are good indicators. But I don't understand how people can claim to know what his ceiling is when it's probably based off of opinions, stuff they've heard from somewhere.

Do we have some stats or comparables to determine what his actual ceiling is? Maybe someone with hockey experience can explain it, cuz I honestly don't understand how we arrive at these high or low ceiling indicators?

One model I saw has his NHL Star probability at 19%, and NHL probability at 62%.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I don't know how everyone here can say iggy has a low ceiling when his draft year was better than his father's, and his father became one of the best power forwards of all time? Tij could grow this/next summer, his play style is already tenacious... why undersell potential upside? If Dallas had known he'd become what he did they would have never traded him for example.
Imo tij has the same upside as his dad, who knows if he can reach it.

Iginla had a fantastic D+1 season including a jump from 33-38 in the WHL to 63-73.

I don't know, other than sharing same last name, why one would expect Tij to do the same. He could. But it's unlikely.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Because Tij is not Jarome and people shouldn't act like he is. Folk can argue about his ceiling and floor to their hearts content but Jarome is completely immaterial to that. He's not his dad and should be judged on his own merits not his father's merits.

Yup and it’s funny people compared his stats to Jarome’s 30 yrs ago and claim it’s some kinda relevant

Anyway, it’s just an opinion. Even the paid ones

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Iginla had a fantastic D+1 season including a jump from 33-38 in the WHL to 63-73.

I don't know, other than sharing same last name, why one would expect Tij to do the same. He could. But it's unlikely.

His age and late season development

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Matthew Tkachuk was high ceiling but lower floor due to his skating. That’s the type of player I feel the Flames should be targeting.

The Flames should be drafting high end talent very early in the draft, yeah duh.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

lol. Another example of "I don't agree so surely it must because the other person knows less than me".

Try ‘I can agree with the experts or with randos on the Internet. Hmm, which should I choose?’

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He’s a safe pick. There’s nothing about his stats that point to a ceiling higher than Catton or Parekh. He’s a high compete player with a great shot. In essence the same draft profile as Coronato. I don’t think it’s even debatable that those players have a higher ceiling based on the seasons they just have. Both are in elite company.

The only thing comparable is a great shot, Iginla drives a line Coronato never did and still doesn't.

And again I'll bring up age, Coronato was 10 months older than Iginla in his draft year, if he was 2 months older he would have gone to the 2020 draft as an 18g-22a forward, in other words a 2nd rounder at best.

People simply don't put enough emphasis on age, I wasn't very excited with the Coronato pick because of this, I wanted a younger Chaz Lucius or Wyatt Johnston, one has be hampered with injury's the other is becoming a superstar.

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

It could be that those claiming he has a low ceiling are just ordinary fans; You know people that work in restaurants, unemployed, or have jobs that have nothing to do with hockey. Stats and trends are important but a lot of times it's just people posting opinions that appear to be factual.

When it comes to draft projections, they are all opinions. There are no facts about ceilings or floors, just guesses. Some are backed up better than others, but none are factual.