2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I think it would be good asset management to bring in DeBrusk on a 1 or 2-year deal. Potentially could be buying a 2nd and a prospect or something

Exactly, it completely depends on what Conroy is offering. He has cap space that in a re-modelling he can use to help other teams with their cap space problems or sign and trade guys a couple years later. IMO Conroy has not made many missteps so far if any so I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for sure.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Major Major

I'd be shocked if he were into that. I think you are looking at minimum 4 years... Maybe 5.

I guess it could make sense depending on who you are shipping out, but I am not tripping over myself to make it happen.

I guess it depends on what Debrusk is looking for and what he's offered from other teams. You give him a modified NTC and maybe he feels like he has an opportunity to choose a contender at the deadline and make a cup run? Rebuilding clubs make these kind of deals pretty often.

[theslymonkey]

I hate the idea of signing DeBrusk. He feels like a Brouwer type add.
To me, the best course of action is to keep selling off the 30 year old players for picks, prospects and under utilized assets.
Also, use cap space as a way to add talent that has soured on their current teams.
Keep looking for the Bennett/Forsling type players. Even if the Flames take a gamble on a Kotkaniemi or Dubois and it busts, they will have the cap to make those mistakes. But the gamble could pay off.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Bobrovsky is going to slide into the spot vacated by Markstrom?

[Ba'alzamon]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

DeBrusk and Mangiapane both scored exactly 40 points this past season while posting generally strong underlying numbers. Would hardly say one is substantially better than the other.

Mangiapane's most common linemates: Backlund and Coleman
Debrusk's most common linemates: Marchand and Coyle

I'm pretty comfortable with my stance.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Mangiapane's most common linemates: Backlund and Coleman
Debrusk's most common linemates: Marchand and Coyle

I'm pretty comfortable with my stance.

Debrusk is a grittier Mangiapane but a bit less skilled.

This should be a pass. We have enough Mangiapane's on the team.

[Jason14h]

Debrusk is at least getting the Coleman / Hyman contract

[Roof-Daddy]

Yeah Debrusk is probably getting 5 x 5 IMO, or something in that neighborhood.

I'd suspect Mang will get dealt at some point and Debrusk would take his spot if he indeed signs with the Flames.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

He would be a great pick up for a team with cup aspirations. We are not making the playoffs for likely 5 years minimum.

There's really no point in adding a playoff performer on a bottom 5 team in the league, on paper.

disagree

[Mr.Coffee]

Agree with Dino no way anybody can predict what the NHL looks like 5 years out. People can’t predict 2 months out properly. Who knows how long the rebuild takes. Calgary didn’t know what they had in Gaudreau… never know.

[bluejays]

Debrusk isn’t moving the needle. He has limited upside but frankly is better than having dinosaurs on the team. If the idea is to fill a roster spot with a free agent young guy, I’m good with it. If the idea is to sign him long term because you think he’s a centrepiece, I think that would be a huge stretch and frankly a mistake. He doesn’t consistently enough create his own chances and much like players like him on other teams, benefits hugely from the stars around him who’s best defenders play against which opens chances for him. He’s a solid third liner and maybe on a bad team a second liner but to sign to anything over three years at $4M, naa.

[GreenLantern2814]

Any team that gets decent goaltending and opportunistic scoring can make the playoffs in the NHL.

If everything broke right for the Flames next year - if Kuzmenko, Huberdeau and Sharangovich all have career years, and if Wolf is a legit 50-55 start goalie, and the defense can hold together, they could absolutely be a playoff team. They couldn’t do anything, but they could get in.

That isn’t very probable based on what we’ve seen, but hockey is funny.

[Burning Beard]

If he has a good attitude, plays hard and WANTS to be in Calgary I would totally be on board. Who cares the cost at this point? This isn't a capped out team and won't be for a few years.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

If he has a good attitude, plays hard and WANTS to be in Calgary I would totally be on board. Who cares the cost at this point? This isn't a capped out team and won't be for a few years.

Signing players to help now only hurts long term, that's the 'why' in why we shouldn't.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Signing players to help now only hurts long term, that's the 'why' in why we shouldn't.

And certainly not at the expense of guys who are already here who you could just pay To keep.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Table 5

To keep the Cool Runnings theme, every time I get excited about an imminent Markstrom trade...

I appreciate this.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Agree with Dino no way anybody can predict what the NHL looks like 5 years out. People can’t predict 2 months out properly. Who knows how long the rebuild takes. Calgary didn’t know what they had in Gaudreau… never know.

Which means we could also be more than 5 years away from the playoffs.

Makes no sense to pick up Debrusk. We aren't close to being a contender.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

Which means we could also be more than 5 years away from the playoffs.

Makes no sense to pick up Debrusk. We aren't close to being a contender.

Does make some sense as we know nothing behind the scenes. Sharangovich, kuzmenko, eat bread and the outside possibility if coleman moving by trade deadline may have conroy looking at a long term wing as the younger players ease in. Still have to put a team on the ice and may hint at bigger things.

[kyuss275]

Isn’t Debrusk average to bellow average skating ? Flames need speed and lots of it.

[Royle9]

Nothing imminent but I’m still told we’ve seen the last of Markstrom in a flames jersey.
It’s been quiet, but hoping Florida can finish it off tonight and the real offseason can begin.