Major Water Main Break in Bowness Area

[DownInFlames]

Excuse me for being a patriot.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Excuse me for being a patriot.

I think it's time you begin.

[DownInFlames]

Damn you, Sliver. You called my bluff.

On a serious note is there any evidence that this break was the result of negligence or deferred maintenance? I see people bitching at the city but I don't know if it's warranted.

[Mightyfire89]

Nm

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Damn you, Sliver. You called my bluff.

On a serious note is there any evidence that this break was the result of negligence or deferred maintenance? I see people bitching at the city but I don't know if it's warranted.

People blame the city for everything, so no doubt they're blaming them for this

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by btimbit

People blame the city for everything, so no doubt they're blaming them for this

Seeing how many people think the City is responsible for fixing potholes on Deerfoot, I am not surprised how misdirected peoples frustrations are.

[Firebot]

This picture helps with picturing the scale



https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...reak-1.7229695

[Bigtime]

Stop smiling for the camera and get back to work!

[chemgear]

From that cbc article:

Mayor Jyoti Gondek apologized to Calgary residents Sunday morning, calling the city's efforts to communicate information about the ongoing feeder water main break "slow to come," and "confusing at times."

"Going forward, we will do a much better job of explaining what's happened, the expected timeline to get back to normal, and what we need from you in the way of water conservation," Gondek told reporters at a press conference.

"And that starts now."

Beginning Monday, Gondek said she will be providing an update to Calgarians every morning through a livestream at 8:30. In addition, the city's emergency management team will hold media briefings at 2 p.m. each day to update residents on the progress that's been made.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Seeing how many people think the City is responsible for fixing potholes on Deerfoot, I am not surprised how misdirected peoples frustrations are.

Who cares about the blame game and getting someone in trouble. How can it be prevented or just better predicted in the future.

Only thing I can think of where it would not be an operators fault is vandalism or something like that.

If I ever said “but it’s an old line” to the regulator after one of my failures they would say “what the fata did you just say? We’ll pretend we didn’t hear you say that”.

I do t even think these lines are regulated so no one will get in trouble.


There are probably other lines, infrastructure aging out just curious. What the plan is?

[puffnstuff]

It was 5 to 7 days to fix it from when exactly? When did that clock start running?

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

It was 5 to 7 days to fix it from when exactly? When did that clock start running?

I think the mayor said "5 to 7 days" a few days ago as well. Maybe she was talking about the arena?

[FurnaceFace]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

It was 5 to 7 days to fix it from when exactly? When did that clock start running?

That message from The City came out sometime on the 8th, so assume Sunday.

[getbak]

I believe it was 5-7 days to complete the repair once the exact location was identified and repair work could begin. I think that means the clock started ticking on Saturday, meaning it should be operational again sometime between Thursday and Saturday --- if all goes well.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Who cares about the blame game and getting someone in trouble. How can it be prevented or just better predicted in the future.

Only thing I can think of where it would not be an operators fault is vandalism or something like that.

If I ever said “but it’s an old line” to the regulator after one of my failures they would say “what the fata did you just say? We’ll pretend we didn’t hear you say that”.

I do t even think these lines are regulated so no one will get in trouble.


There are probably other lines, infrastructure aging out just curious. What the plan is?

Every time I see one your replies to me, I feel like you meant to respond to the person I was replying to.

[PaperBagger'14]

One thing to consider here as well (I hate to be a wet paper bag here) but once these lines get re pressurized as well as all the down stream devices there is a very real chance that other smaller issues pop up. It would be all the lines of seals/valves failing after re pressurizing.

This happens frequently in other transmission level utilities and I would expect there to be additional downstream repairs after this main line is fixed.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

One thing to consider here as well (I hate to be a wet paper bag here) but once these lines get re pressurized as well as all the down stream devices there is a very real chance that other smaller issues pop up. It would be all the lines of seals/valves failing after re pressurizing.

This happens frequently in other transmission level utilities and I would expect there to be additional downstream repairs after this main line is fixed.

And almost certainly could be sinkholes in the area of the break for a while after the fix.

[GGG]

Keep in mind that for water mains they have an allowable leakage rate so perfectly tight isn’t the criteria.

[Boblobla]

Is at steel pipe that is concrete lined and jacketed? No wonder it is taking time to repair...

[Fuzz]

It will be interesting what happens, particularity when the city says the main break is fixed. Presumably everyone will respond by using a record amount of water. Which could be bad.