That's not a bad way of looking at it. But now the question goes: "Lots of scouts feel that Parekh IS Erik Karlsson - the good, and the bad."
So do you take Karlsson over Chara? Makar is amazing because he is amazing everywhere on the ice, even when he was younger.
Obviously it then gets murkier, as even I don't think Silayev (who I would be 100% fine with drafting) is going to be the next Chara, but he has been favourably compared to Hedman. Hedman vs Karlsson?
i can genuinely see and agree with both sides of the argument between these two players. One of them is likely going to be available, as not everyone will be gone by 9. I would honestly be happy with either, but at this point in time, only time will really show you who is going to be better (and it may not even be close, either way). Just two wildly different bodies/strengths, and this sums up the first 12 picks of this draft.
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Originally Posted by howard_the_duck The upside of both Parekh and Silayev is so tantalizing, though. I'd have a hell of a hard time passing that up.
Parekh over Silayev all day long.
Parekh gives me Makar vibes, and I’d always take Makar over Chara.
(Though I’m sure neither will be there)
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That's not a bad way of looking at it. But now the question goes: "Lots of scouts feel that Parekh IS Erik Karlsson - the good, and the bad."
So do you take Karlsson over Chara? Makar is amazing because he is amazing everywhere on the ice, even when he was younger.
Obviously it then gets murkier, as even I don't think Silayev (who I would be 100% fine with drafting) is going to be the next Chara, but he has been favourably compared to Hedman. Hedman vs Karlsson?
i can genuinely see and agree with both sides of the argument between these two players. One of them is likely going to be available, as not everyone will be gone by 9. I would honestly be happy with either, but at this point in time, only time will really show you who is going to be better (and it may not even be close, either way). Just two wildly different bodies/strengths, and this sums up the first 12 picks of this draft.
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Originally Posted by howard_the_duck The upside of both Parekh and Silayev is so tantalizing, though. I'd have a hell of a hard time passing that up.
Parekh over Silayev all day long.
Parekh gives me Makar vibes, and I’d always take Makar over Chara.
(Though I’m sure neither will be there)
Yes, you take Karlsson over Chara.
If Karlsson doesn’t have his Achilles Cooke’d he’s probably on a chase to catch Lidstrom’s seven Norris trophies.
I just don't see them moving Necas for a late 1st and 2nds. I thought Hronek was a good fit but Diwhali shut that down. Top prospects or a better roster player than Hronek. Maybe they'd take Andersson but that doesn't make sense for the Flames.
I just don't see them moving Necas for a late 1st and 2nds. I thought Hronek was a good fit but Diwhali shut that down. Top prospects or a better roster player than Hronek. Maybe they'd take Andersson but that doesn't make sense for the Flames.
The only reason they are not keeping Necas is for salary cap purposes. They are going to want futures back.
Parekhs defensive game is one of the worst I've seen and until it's fixed hes gonna get destroyed in the NHL.
Then I question how much you have watched him. He is decent with his stick check, just not a physical defender. His positioning is ok too. He is an average defender and an elite offensive D man.
Why are you such a Necas hater? "Mushy Middle", like how does Necas make the Canucks worse if they were do get him?
They already have their stars (Hughes, Demko, Miller, Petey) and he is a great complimentary piece to add more offense
While Necas might not fit here in Calgary, he is a great player it seems. You just seem to be a huge hater for no reason lmao
It's not like he's an elite star player. Looks like a nice player kind of in the Lindholm mold but Lindholm never really moved the needle for the Flames. This organization needs elite, difference making talent. Necas isn't going to drag the Flames into the playoffs on his back. He may be just good enough to maybe move them out of drafting in the top 10 but he's not going to turn around the fortunes of the franchise. Trading draft picks for him would lead to more treading of water. I personally don't see the Flames moving the 9th pick for him so I'm not overly concerned about these rumours. If they want to work it into a Markstrom trade then no problem.
It's not like he's an elite star player. Looks like a nice player kind of in the Lindholm mold but Lindholm never really moved the needle for the Flames. This organization needs elite, difference making talent. Necas isn't going to drag the Flames into the playoffs on his back. He may be just good enough to maybe move them out of drafting in the top 10 but he's not going to turn around the fortunes of the franchise. Trading draft picks for him would lead to more treading of water. I personally don't see the Flames moving the 9th pick for him so I'm not overly concerned about these rumours. If they want to work it into a Markstrom trade then no problem.
Teams usually don't move elite talent anyways.
Necas is a good piece to trade for coming out of a rebuild with an established core of young player, to add as a complimentary piece.
We trade picks for him now, we will look back in 3 years and say well we could have drafted X and X, and our team probably wouldn't be floundering right now.
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LHRW Javon Moore's situation reminds me a bit of the conversation surrounding Aydar Suniev before last year's draft- he's a big skill player who is extremely hard to project, mainly because he's playing in a lower league against competition inferior to that in Major Junior, and plays with top-tier talent. Like Suniev, Moore is one of the most polarizing players in his draft, and perhaps one of the bigger boom-or-bust prospects available. Moore, who stands 6'3" and 190lbs, plied his trade this season at Minnetonka High in the Minnesota High School league, amassing 26 goals and 53 points in 28 games, putting him 52nd in scoring but earning him a nomination for the Mr. Hockey award, given out anually to the best High School player from Minny- this season, the honor went to his teammate, Hagen Burrows. To start the season, Moore exploded out of the gate with 16 points in his first 4 games to lead all skaters in the league. Moore, who has a December 7th, 2005 birthday, also played 3 games for Sioux Falls of the USHL after his season at Minnetonka was over, but was only able to muster 1 assist. He is ranked #47 for North-American Skaters by Central Scouting, and I've spotted his name as early as the third round in a few mocks.
Moore has all the tools, but his hockey sense is in question. He has both finesse and power, and is equal parts playmaker and scorer with a big frame and plenty of athleticism. He can bulge the twine with his bullet of a wrister, his booming one-timer, or his soft hands to finish in-close, and there's plenty of deception in his game with feints, head fakes, look-offs, and dekes to move him around in pockets of space around the net, and to fool goalies on his release. Moore gets around quite well for a player of his size, with a long, fluid stride that generates good power, and strong edges that give him the ability to stop and start quickly, or pivot away from checkers. He can blow by opponents at the High School level, win races to loose pucks, and beat defenders wide, but he will need plenty of work on his explosiveness, and acceleration- which is a bit sluggish for higher levels. He uses his physicality to his advantage, leveraging his size in puck battles, and will step up with a big hit now and then when the opportunity presents itself- but he is not nearly aggressive enough, and only had 1 minor penalty all season for Minnetonka. He will lean into defenders a bit when driving the net, but too often relies on finesse to get around- he could dominate physically if he wanted to.
At the High School level, Moore can make plays showing some offensive instincts as well as some vision and creativity, but there are doubts that this side of his repertoire will translate well to higher levels, where he will have much less space and time. He has skill with the puck, and can find difficult passing lanes to teammates in high-danger, showing good timing. Right now, he exhibits a skillful delay game where he can slow down the pace to wait for opportunities to arise rather than force plays that aren't there, which helps him to eliminate egregious errors and keep possession for his team- this is another area of his game that may not fly in higher leagues. His stickhandling is smooth though, his hands are quick, and his puck-protection skills will serve him well at any level- he doesn't cough up the puck very often. Moore works hard on the backcheck, and is known to be a quality 200-ft player with solid defensive awareness and positioning.
It's safe to say that Moore is far more potential than finished product at this point, and he's probably much more raw than most prospects in the draft. He still has room to get bigger, and add plenty more muscle to his frame. Moore's off-puck game is a bit of a concern, as he can look lost when not in possession. He is dominant at times, and less visible at other times, and even though one of his biggest knocks is his lack of aggression and his perceived passivity, there are scouts who say he gets by in High School hockey by being much bigger and more athletic than his peers. Moore can drift into playing too much on the perimeter, rendering him less effective- he needs to cut to the middle more often, where he can be dominant. He also needs to learn to play with pace, as he plays rather slow right now, and can appear lazy at times. Moore has big-time potential, and has middle-6 upside, but there's concerns about how his game will translate to higher levels, and many question his hockey sense- or lack thereof. Fortunately, Moore will be playing for the University of Minnesota Golden Gophers this fall, which is one of the most respected programs in college hockey. I'm guessing we'll see him go in the 4th, or 5th round.
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Lack of size is usually considered to be a detriment, but nobody has told 5'10",165lb winger Keets Fawcett that- and he wouldn't believe it anyway. Fawcett started the season for the Hitmen playing down the lineup, and could only muster 6 points in his first 15 games, but with an earned increase in ice-time and responsibility, he piled up 33 points in 33 games between Nov.18th and Feb.17th. This includes a 20-game stretch after the start of the New Year where he posted 23 points, and he finished with 19 goals and 45 points in 65 games, with 41 penalty-minutes. Central Scouting isn't giving our boy much respect, ranking him #138 for North American skaters.
Offensive numbers aside, Fawcett is one of the best defensive forwards in the WHL, and perhaps the CHL, with sparkling tracking data. He shuts down opponents proactively with regularity, seeing the ice extremely well in the defensive zone, even closing on attackers coming through the neutral zone. He's highly aware on the backcheck in causing turnovers and jumping on loose pucks, and seems to be able to cover every square foot of space in the zone, from being a menace down low to forcing steals aplenty at the top of the zone for breakaway opportunities. In his own zone, he's highly engaged and details-oriented, winning physical battles and applying overwhelming pressure on attackers, despite his diminutive stature. Fawcett exerts superhuman energy from an unrelenting motor, and administers a highly aggressive in-your-face style on both the forecheck and the backcheck. He's exceedingly physical, hits everything that moves, and will drop the gloves with opponents who are much bigger than him- and he does quite well in his pugilistic endeavors, although he takes a lot of punches unfortunately. Dating back to the pre-season, Fawcett has participated in 6 fights that I can count, he's a tough little nut to crack. He battles through contact, and is adept at winning body position in 50/50 contests.
Another area where he shines is in transition, and his fancy stats tell a tale of a player who is virtually NHL-calber in this regard. Fawcett is able to push pace through the neutral zone, creating a high number of controlled exits and entries through traffic with well-timed give-and-go's, but he can also connect on high-end breakout passes. He is able to manipulate opponents with various moves and feints when in possession to open lanes to carry through, and has shown an abilty to drive play while maintaining possession in perpetuity for his team. He has also displayed an ability to create off the rush, despite possessing no real high-end skill, and is fearless in driving the middle lane for high-danger chances. Though he sees the ice well, any sign of dynamic playmaking in the offensive zone only comes in flashes, though he exhibits a smart, well-timed delay game to be able make sound decisions and avoid giveaways. Off the puck, he provides constant support for teammates, outworks opponents, and manages to find open spaces to remain playable at all times. Fawcett has a pretty good array of accurate shots to choose from, from a bullet of a wrister to a lethal backhand, and will go to the net to cause havok and cash in on second-chance opportunities.
Fawcett's skating is a little above average, but far from elite, and could use more attention if he expects to earn a place in the big leagues- his explosiveness and top speed need to be addressed, although he offsets his issues somewhat with his high motor, and by keeping his legs pumping hard. There are still instances in games where he can disappear, or seem like he's not putting his best foot forward, and though he's uncommonly strong and physical, he can be overpowered at times due to his size. He reminds me of a poor-man's Brayden Point, without the high-end offensive game, and seems to be destined for bottom-6 duty in the NHL, providing energy and anarchy to whatever lineup he ends up playing for. Look for him in the 4th, to the 6th round.
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