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				So, as we get near the draft, what is the consensus on the strength of the draft? 
 
Originally, this was supposed to be a weak draft. Is that still the case or did the emergence of some players (e.g., Iginla, Silayev) improve the outlook a bit. 
			
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I never agreed it was weak. That was put out there by a couple of draft analysts that I generally view to be amongst the most poorly informed. And it is weaker relative to last year (because of the strength of the top end last year). But I would say last year was a above average to strong draft. 
 
Overall I think it's an average draft, but above average to strong on D.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-14-2024, 05:27 PM
			
			
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				Sandman's Post U-18 Top-100: 
 
1) C Mack Celebrini 
2) RW Ivan Demidov 
3) D Artyom Levshunov 
4) C Berkly Catton 
5) D Sam Dickinson 
6) D Zeev Buium 
7) D Tij Iginla 
8) D Zayne Parekh 
9) D Anton Silayev 
10) C Cayden Lindstrom 
11) D Carter Yakemchuk 
12) C Konsta Helenius 
13) C Cole Eiserman  
14) C Michael Hage 
15) RW Beckett Sennecke 
16) RW Liam Greentree 
17) RW Ryder Ritchie 
18) RW Michael Brandsegg-Nygard 
19) LW Igor Chernyshov 
20) LW Trevor Connelly 
21) RW Yegor Surin 
22) D Adam Jiricek 
23) RW Matvei Gridin 
24) C Sacha Boisvert 
25) RW Emil Hemming 
26) RW Terik Parascak 
27) RW Maxim Masse 
28) D Henry Mews 
29) C Lucas Petterson 
30) D Cole Hutson 
31) LW Tanner Howe 
32) D EJ Emery 
 
33) C Dean Letourneau 
34) LW Andrew Basha 
35) D Aron Kiviharju 
36) D Leo Sahlin Wellenius 
37) LW Nikita Artamonov 
38) C Jett Luchanko 
39) LW Marek Vanacker 
40) C Cole Beaudoin 
41) D Alfons Freij 
42) D Dominik Badinka 
43) D Jesse Pulkkinen 
44) C Luke Misa 
45) C Linus Eriksson 
46) D Luca Marrelli 
47) D Charlie Elick 
48) D Veeti Vaisanen 
49) D Stian Solberg 
50) LW Melvin Fernstrom 
51) RW Miguel Marques 
52) C Julius Miettinen 
53) D Lukas Fischer 
54) RW Adam Jecho 
55) LW John Mustard 
56) RW Brodie Ziemer 
57) LW Teddy Stiga 
58) D Spencer Gill 
59) C Simon Zether 
60) C Raoul Boilard 
61) C Kamil Bednarik 
62) D Harrison Brunicke 
63) D Colton Roberts 
64) D Will Skahan 
 
65) RW Carson Wetsch 
66) D Tarin Smith 
67) RW Justin Poirier 
68) RW Jacob Battaglia 
69) D Daniil Ustinkov 
70) C Christian Humphreys 
71) LW Max Plante 
72) D Matvei Shuravin 
73) D Leon Muggli 
74) LW Hagen Burrows 
75) LW Will Zellers  
76) G Kim Saarinen 
77) D Tomas Lavoie 
78) C Kieron Walton 
79) RW Kasper Pikkarainen 
80) RW Sam O'Reilly 
81) D John Whipple 
82) C Clarke Caswell 
83) D Noel Franson 
84) D Tory Pitner 
85) LW Ollie Josephson 
86) G Ryerson Leenders 
87) D Jakub Fibigr 
88) D Adam Kleber 
89) RW Ondrej Kos 
90) LW Alex Blais 
91) LW Eriks Mateiko 
92) D Nilopekka Muhonen 
93) D Sebastian Soini 
94) C AJ Spellacy 
95) C Aatos Koivu 
96) G Carter George 
 
97) G Eemil Vinni 
98) D Anthony Cristoforo 
99) C Nathan Villeneuve 
100) C Alex Zetterberg 
			
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			05-14-2024, 06:42 PM
			
			
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			05-14-2024, 06:46 PM
			
			
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				Letourneau screams Hunter Smith/Mark Jankowski to me.  
 
Intriguing player with the size and the skating and the RHS 
But how special is 127 points in high school AAA?? 
 
I'd be happier him being taken in the 2nd round or willing to risk him not getting to the 2nd round than use the Vancouver pick but I'm just a dummy fan. 
			
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I agree, he strikes me as a Joe Colbourne type, a gentle giant of sorts.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-14-2024, 07:14 PM
			
			
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			Hunter Smith / Mark Jankowski 
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			05-14-2024, 07:34 PM
			
			
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				Hunter Smith / Mark Jankowski 
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Hunter Smith. = Big RHS. Jankowski= high school center.
 
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			05-14-2024, 07:39 PM
			
			
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			Letourneau seems like a taller Joe Colborne.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Hard to tell what Latourneau would be... IMO we'd need to see what he looks like after his sophmore season in the NCAA to have a proper idea... after Hagens (presumably) leaves the program for the NHL.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Down around the Vancouver pick there's like 4 other centers I'd prefer. The two Swedes (Erikson and Carlsson), Cole Beaudoin, Jet Luchanko and maybe even reach deep for Koivu (I understand he didn't perform well at the U-18s but Finland wasn't that good overall).
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-14-2024, 08:11 PM
			
			
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				Down around the Vancouver pick there's like 4 other centers I'd prefer. The two Swedes (Erikson and Carlsson), Cole Beaudoin, Jet Luchanko and maybe even reach deep for Koivu (I understand he didn't perform well at the U-18s but Finland wasn't that good overall). 
			
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Like letourneau but cole is interesting. Built like lucic but a center. 6.2  210 pounds probably plays at 220. Not much of a shooter but great vision and passing. Hits like a truck. 
 
Cole with our second pick, letourneau in the second. Dont think lukas fisher makes it to our bottom pick in the second. Would also be surprised though if letournaeu makes much past the first.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Grain of salt time: 
 
According to a report by Habs blogger Marc-Olivier Beaudoin, the Canadiens might surprise the hockey world by selecting RW Beckett Sennecke with the 5th-overall selection in the draft. 
 
You know what? I wouldn't blame them if they did. Sennecke is 6'2", skates very well, and has put up 22 points in 16 playoff games. Hell, I might even be jealous...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-14-2024, 10:32 PM
			
			
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			His stats have been pretty unremarkable in the last two regular seasons.  I wouldn't be happy with the Flames using a 5th overall pick on a 68 point forward.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-14-2024, 10:37 PM
			
			
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				His stats have been pretty unremarkable in the last two regular seasons.  I wouldn't be happy with the Flames using a 5th overall pick on a 68 point forward. 
			
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			05-14-2024, 10:37 PM
			
			
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				Grain of salt time: 
 
According to a report by Habs blogger Marc-Olivier Beaudoin, the Canadiens might surprise the hockey world by selecting RW Beckett Sennecke with the 5th-overall selection in the draft. 
 
You know what? I wouldn't blame them if they did. Sennecke is 6'2", skates very well, and has put up 22 points in 16 playoff games. Hell, I might even be jealous... 
			
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If the stuff about heavily scouting tij are true they might not have a preference for wing or center. Dont see it out if the realm of possibility. Would actually heartily approved because who knows what gem drops to us. Catton? Buium? Dickinson?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				His stats have been pretty unremarkable in the last two regular seasons.  I wouldn't be happy with the Flames using a 5th overall pick on a 68 point forward. 
			
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He had 55 points in 61 games in 2022-23, which is uncommonly good for a draft-minus-1 season. If anything, I'm asking why he didn't get more points this season. He's showing who he really is in the playoffs. 29 points in his last 21 regular season games too.
 
Plus, there's plenty of star players who hovered around a ppg in their draft season.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			05-14-2024, 10:44 PM
			
			
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			Not sure it will be Mtl, but I think the draft is wide open enough that a team in the top 10 will pick a surprising guy.  
 
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			05-14-2024, 10:57 PM
			
			
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				Not sure it will be Mtl, but I think the draft is wide open enough that a team in the top 10 will pick a surprising guy.  
 
Just hope it isn’t the Flames. 
			
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Hage, Senecke, greentree could all make guest spots in the top ten. Im all for it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Hunter Smith. = Big RHS. Jankowski= high school center. 
 
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One with 50G/100 points in the NHL, one with never a sniff of the NHL
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-15-2024, 03:38 AM
			
			
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				He had 55 points in 61 games in 2022-23, which is uncommonly good for a draft-minus-1 season. If anything, I'm asking why he didn't get more points this season. He's showing who he really is in the playoffs. 29 points in his last 21 regular season games too. 
 
Plus, there's plenty of star players who hovered around a ppg in their draft season. 
			
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Sennecke had an arm or shoulder injury early in the season and missed some time, some think he came back to soon(happens in draft years) as it took him time to get his game on track, he is a nice talent although at 5 would be a large reach.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Sennecke had an arm or shoulder injury early in the season and missed some time, some think he came back to soon(happens in draft years) as it took him time to get his game on track, he is a nice talent although at 5 would be a large reach. 
			
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Do you have a full blown scouting report on him Sandman? I saw him playing in the playoffs against the 67s and he was so good, I didn’t know who he was but kept catching my eye. Finally realized he was a potential first rounder after looking him up.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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