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Old 03-14-2024, 11:40 AM   #11341
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Oh, this will descend in to a whataboutism?

What I think is new here is that I don't ever remember a coalition of political forces setting the stage for their hand picked saviour to fail before the election is even held.
Who is the coalition of political forces?
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Old 03-14-2024, 02:42 PM   #11342
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I think it's foolish that Trudeau is blaming Harper for our current woes, I also think this ridiculous that Pollievre is blaming all our problems on Trudeau.

I think we all know the real reason why we're in the mess we're in, in today's day and age, is as a result of that good for nothing Alexander MacKenzie!
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Old 03-14-2024, 03:30 PM   #11343
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Lets not kid ourselves, PP would be blaming everyone else too if he were PM right now and the country were going in the direction it is.
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Old 03-14-2024, 05:31 PM   #11344
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Old 03-15-2024, 10:07 AM   #11345
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Had to stop after 45 seconds, does that video get funny?
The cringe was hurting too much to continue.
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Old 03-15-2024, 10:18 AM   #11346
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I think it's foolish that Trudeau is blaming Harper for our current woes, I also think this ridiculous that Pollievre is blaming all our problems on Trudeau.

I think we all know the real reason why we're in the mess we're in, in today's day and age, is as a result of that good for nothing Alexander MacKenzie!
The problem is that blaming Harper will not resonate with voters anymore. We are past the point of going back to the well of Harper and secret agendas. Canadians are not happy about the current situation. PP is attempting to become PM so of course he's going to blame today's issues on Trudeau. Do you expect him to go back like Justin and blame Chretien?
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Old 03-15-2024, 10:22 AM   #11347
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The problem is that blaming Harper will not resonate with voters anymore. We are past the point of going back to the well of Harper and secret agendas. Canadians are not happy about the current situation. PP is attempting to become PM so of course he's going to blame today's issues on Trudeau. Do you expect him to go back like Justin and blame Chretien?
LOL... blah blab blah blah. Trudeau ruined Alberta with his NEP! blah blah blah
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Old 03-15-2024, 10:30 AM   #11348
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The way I read White Out's comment is that they aren't even in power and Conservatives seem to be already claiming their failure is because of Trudeau.

Usually you have a party come in, say wow all these issues are the other guy's fault when they try and fail in fixing them.

They are setting themselves up for being failures already and already blaming their shortfalls on Trudeau.

"We are going to fail at fixing anything but you should vote for us anyway. Because Trudeau"
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Old 03-15-2024, 12:20 PM   #11349
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It’s an interesting question.

At what point does the policy decisions of the previous government reach their full affect? We are still dealing with fallout from Harper’s failure to properly consult on pipelines. Change happens over decades. We really should be evaluating if Harper was successful now with 10 years of hindsight.

We also know that the macro economic conditions leaders find themselves in are completely out of their control yet the electorate credits or blames them for it.

So why do we have housing issues today?
- increased rates of population increase
- Failure of federal governments since Trudeau senior to invest is housing
- Policies of decreasing qualifying standards for mortgages leading to inflated housing values.

Which ones are Trudeau’s failures? Really just the increased immigration rate. The 2016 addition of the stress test likely saved a lot of people the past few years. But most of our housing problems stem from 40 years of poor policy.

So I think you can evaluate the current PM on how they make decisions rather than the results of those decisions. Trudeau fails because he doesn’t make data driven decisions to benefit people not because housing is expensive right now.
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Old 03-15-2024, 12:35 PM   #11350
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God that was cringe. But.....

I cannot believe the CBC allowed them to depict their dear leader in such a negative light.

I think they see the writing on the wall, and now they have to start appealing Conservatives or it's gonna go from bad to way worse and potential non existence for them after the next election.

And by doing that it makes me respect the CBC even less. I'd respect you more if you were at least willing to die on your little Liberal/Socialist hill.
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Old 03-15-2024, 12:43 PM   #11351
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This is the first time This Hour is 22 Minutes has parodied a Liberal. Defund the CBC!
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Old 03-15-2024, 12:59 PM   #11352
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It's almost like the CBC aren't as partisan as the right-wing media have been telling you...?
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lol, yeah right.

CBC is great provincially and locally both with TV & radio. Complete trash on the national scale with news and everything else they do.
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Old 03-15-2024, 01:43 PM   #11354
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It's almost like the CBC aren't as partisan as the right-wing media have been telling you...?
The CBC has obviously found a way inside your heads fellas
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If you’re going to hate the CBC irrationally, at least own it. The hate is just the ficklest and “old man yelling” meme worthy stuff around.

I remember some morons here losing it because they think they’re not covering the same stories as the other media outlet, even though they are, or they expect stories to be on specific pages all the time, forever. “well, the scandal about such and such was in the politics and not national section…”.
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The hypocrisy is the funniest part, to me. Grumpy codgers complain about Liberal bias at the CBC, meanwhile gladly devouring the blatantly Conservative-biased crap from Postmedia, etc.

Same sort of idiots in the US who believe that the "MSM" is blatantly lying to them, while Fox News Channel rots their brain with a bunch of patent non-sense while telling them "we're Fair and Balanced™, we're the only ones who'll tell you the truth!"
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If you’re going to hate the CBC irrationally, at least own it. The hate is just the ficklest and “old man yelling” meme worthy stuff around.

I remember some morons here losing it because they think they’re not covering the same stories as the other media outlet, even though they are, or they expect stories to be on specific pages all the time, forever. “well, the scandal about such and such was in the politics and not national section…”.
Not just that. Wasn’t someone on here complaining about CBC covering an issue they felt wasn’t important “too much” and not covering something like homelessness enough, and then a simple search revealed that the number of articles about homelessness outranked the other issue by like… an insane amount?

People who hate CBC just love making up the weirdest things to complain about.

I’m seriously trying to imagine someone seeing a 22 Minutes clip… a political parody show… and not just thinking this is the first time they’ve made fun of the Liberals (as opposed to like… literally every episode they’ve ever done… the whole parody thing and all) but then making the leap of it somehow saying something about CBC… and NOT JUST “oh I was wrong about CBC” which is the way you would think it would go, but actually turning it into ANOTHER reason to complain about the CBC lol.

People are fascinating.
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Old 03-15-2024, 03:36 PM   #11358
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I was always under the impression the PMO had direct control over every 22 minutes sketch, so this is really shocking to my world view.
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I was always under the impression the PMO had direct control over every 22 minutes sketch, so this is really shocking to my world view.
Given the quality of that sketch it's very believable so I don't blame you for being surprised.
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The hypocrisy is the funniest part, to me. Grumpy codgers complain about Liberal bias at the CBC, meanwhile gladly devouring the blatantly Conservative-biased crap from Postmedia, etc.

Same sort of idiots in the US who believe that the "MSM" is blatantly lying to them, while Fox News Channel rots their brain with a bunch of patent non-sense while telling them "we're Fair and Balanced™, we're the only ones who'll tell you the truth!"
Yawn.

The whataboutism is pathetic.

"Yeah but you guys love Postmedia so hah."

Who said anything about Post Media? Nobody.

Anything CBC does that isn't local or provincial news is garbage and should be culled. The last thing we need is taxpayers subsidizing TV shows and worthless news cycles. And since we're likely heading in the direction of CBC funding being cut, I find this conversation amusing.

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