MF YYC Politics - there, I mega did it

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Sean Chu: I did not sign the recall petition for the mayor.

Reporter: What's up with this then?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1767649992435708115

If anyone ever questions the stupidity it voters..........

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Sean Chu: I did not sign the recall petition for the mayor.

Reporter: What's up with this then?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1767649992435708115

I'd like to see what it says in the message that Chu is replying to.

[cheevers]

The irony of that pervert trying to have someone else recalled. Hopefully he disappears into his own ass.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

I'd like to see what it says in the message that Chu is replying to.

Yeah, as much as Sean Chu needs to just crawl under a rock and die, what the hell is the context, Bigtime?

[Fuzz]

It's all here:


https://calgary.citynews.ca/2024/03/...l-chu-signing/


LOL. Sorry, I meant "not". Ya, I'm I'm not buying that. Why would you implicate your family in not signing it? That doesn't make sense re-reading it with a not in there. He just got busted and is back peddling. How is this feces sack still in office? How has HE not been recalled?

[calgarygeologist]

Aside from Chu doing stupid things, can someone clarify if there is some sort of violation or wrongdoing if a Councillor was to sign a recall petition against one of their colleagues.

[Flames0910]

Really? That's what he's going with?

"Sorry for the late reply.
I've not and all of my family members have all signed the form"



Nice that the city bought him an iPad Pro though.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Aside from Chu doing stupid things, can someone clarify if there is some sort of violation or wrongdoing if a Councillor was to sign a recall petition against one of their colleagues.

I'm not sure about legal wrongdoing, but signing a petition to get someone out of office who votes opposite of your wishes has to at least be seen by a reasonable electorate as morally wrong and only done by a person with the lowest of integrity(can that go negative?).



If you are looknig for technical weasel words that allow him to do this without punishment, well, seeing how he is still in office given all he has and has not done, I can't imagine their is specific wording for this. Particularly given how new the legislation is. So he'll probably get away with it, an further undermine our electoral system.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'm not sure about legal wrongdoing, but signing a petition to get someone out of office who votes opposite of your wishes has to at least be seen by a reasonable electorate as morally wrong and only done by a person with the lowest of integrity(can that go negative?).



If you are looknig for technical weasel words that allow him to do this without punishment, well, seeing how he is still in office given all he has and has not done, I can't imagine their is specific wording for this. Particularly given how new the legislation is. So he'll probably get away with it, an further undermine our electoral system.

So if someone has a recall Chu petition, you don’t think other councillors should sign it?

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Aside from Chu doing stupid things, can someone clarify if there is some sort of violation or wrongdoing if a Councillor was to sign a recall petition against one of their colleagues.

I don't see why. He'd be signing it as a voter. Maybe he thinks she's terrible and should go.

Of course, Chu encouraging the use of recall legislation doesn't seem like a good career move to me, but he's never struck me as being the brightest bulb.

Tldr; Chu is an idiot, but signing a recall petition isn't why.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Slava

So if someone has a recall Chu petition, you don’t think other councillors should sign it?

I dunno. They probably shouldn't talk about it with some rando with a Rogers email account if they did.

[Fuzz]

No, I don't think they should.


You can read about integrity here:


https://www.calgary.ca/council/integrity-ethics.html


But a quick look at the code has this

A Member must respect and comply with the law and avoid conduct that, in the eyes of a reasonable Calgarian, undermines, or has the potential to undermine, public confidence in City governance.

Do you have confidence in council members trying to remove others? I think that leads us down a ####ty path.

[Slava]

I think it’s fine. If they had sole decision making power it would be questionable, but signing a petition isn’t a big deal. I don’t like Chu and I’m not sure why you guys keep electing him, but I don’t really care that he signed this petition, and frankly I’m not surprised either.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'm not sure about legal wrongdoing, but signing a petition to get someone out of office who votes opposite of your wishes has to at least be seen by a reasonable electorate as morally wrong and only done by a person with the lowest of integrity(can that go negative?).



If you are looknig for technical weasel words that allow him to do this without punishment, well, seeing how he is still in office given all he has and has not done, I can't imagine their is specific wording for this. Particularly given how new the legislation is. So he'll probably get away with it, an further undermine our electoral system.

I don't view this any differently then Gondek deciding to not swear in Chu or voting to keep him off committees right after the election.

Are these decisions that our council should be making against one another? Probably not.

Our council is full of disfunction and lacks a lot of integrity and it doesn't stop at Chu or Gondek.

[Jimmy Stang]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I don't view this any differently then Gondek deciding to not swear in Chu or voting to keep him off committees right after the election.

Are these decisions that our council should be making against one another? Probably not.

Our council is full of disfunction and lacks a lot of integrity and it doesn't stop at Chu or Gondek.

Well one of them admitted to a sexual act with a minor, on duty as a police officer, while in uniform. So it is a little bit different.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I don't view this any differently then Gondek deciding to not swear in Chu or voting to keep him off committees right after the election.

Are these decisions that our council should be making against one another? Probably not.

Our council is full of disfunction and lacks a lot of integrity and it doesn't stop at Chu or Gondek.

Ya, ya. Same same, right? Why worry, because the other one also did some stuff.

This is really the kind of pathetic thinking that has led our politics to where we are today, so congrats on rolling with it. It's insidious because it seems like such a neutral thing to say. But it belies the truth; that one person is an absolute chowder head, a child molester, and an abuser of power, and the other is at least trying to maintain some sense of respect and decorum in the chamber by not allowing Chu to stand with colleagues and receive the respect of the oath. That was somethhing I'd expect any leader with an ounce of dignity to do. Chu betrayed voters and the only reasonable responsible thing to do was step down. He didn't do that.

But same-same, eh?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

Well one of them admitted to a sexual act with a minor, on duty as a police officer, while in uniform. So it is a little bit different.

Yeah, but Gondek isn’t that good at her job, which is basically the same to conservatives.

[Locke]

Mr. Chu? Mrs. Gondek?

Step into my parlor...

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Slava

I think it’s fine. If they had sole decision making power it would be questionable, but signing a petition isn’t a big deal. I don’t like Chu and I’m not sure why you guys keep electing him, but I don’t really care that he signed this petition, and frankly I’m not surprised either.

It bothers me that it went through his "professional" email (Yes, I know there is nothing professional about this POS).

It might be different if it went through his personal email account.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

Well one of them admitted to a sexual act with a minor, on duty as a police officer, while in uniform. So it is a little bit different.

Exactly. Chu is a deplorable and it's ridiculous that he keeps getting elected. But signing this petition isn't that big a deal. Is it good manners to a colleague, no. But this council is way past manners being the problem.

I definitely agree that Chu would be a better target for a recall given the two situations (like Pepsi said Gondek is just bad at her job, Chu is a bad person and bad at his job). I can't imagine either will get re-elected but Chu's conduct seems more worthy of a recall to me.