03-08-2024, 11:16 AM
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#29321
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Johnny went to Columbus, so I'm not sure Skittles are as valuable a currency here as they used to be.
No deal.
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Originally Posted by snipetype
k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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03-08-2024, 11:17 AM
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#29322
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Scoring Winger
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I did not realize, until today, how much Boudreau looks like Larry "Bud" Melman.
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03-08-2024, 11:17 AM
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#29323
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Unless Markstrom said more than the one "didn't like how it was handled upstairs" comment, I don't see how anyone can point to what exactly he was referring to. Conroy said it was just a communication issue and everything was back in order, and Markstrom hasn't said differently since.
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03-08-2024, 11:18 AM
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#29324
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
You know that speculating about this stuff is most of the traffic on this site, right?
Do you want it to all stop? Or just the speculation that’s critical of the Flames?
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I get tired of this.
I have never blocked conversation on this site and I won't. I'm happy to have others disagree with me, see it more and more every day.
You're suggesting then that I should refrain from having an opinion then?
Because that's all I'm doing.
Which since you replied ... has generated further discussion making your point kind of moot.
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03-08-2024, 11:19 AM
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#29325
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Not really what I mean.
"I think the market will be worse in the summer" is fine opinion.
But when it enters into the notion that they have to take what Jersey is offering when nobody has a clue what that offer is ... gets sketchy.
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And while it may still be "opinion", statements like "there's no way the market will be as good" seem a lot more like statements of fact.
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03-08-2024, 11:19 AM
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#29326
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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How about a sneaky buy on a young(er) player, just to switch things up?
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03-08-2024, 11:19 AM
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#29327
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Sec214
The owner has not stopped anything outside of having a high price on retention especially if its a multi year deal.
If you want a handful of skittles for players then we have plenty of offers for that.
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I agree, but unrealistic value on retention does not allow this team to move forward. Specific to Markstrom, it eliminates an opportunity to capitalize on getting assets from a leveraged team to help propel the rebuild/retool. Calgary spends to the cap anyhow…. Utilize young skilled players to get experience to pay off later.
Owners should just accept they are paying the full cap amount, and leave the hockey people to build the teams.
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03-08-2024, 11:20 AM
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#29328
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Burmis Tree
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Originally Posted by activeStick
That sounds amazing!
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It is. Just bought a box of Cubans from a vendor on the beach - help support the local economy, my wife wants to run the gauntlet of all the different daiquiris, who am I to disappoint her?
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03-08-2024, 11:21 AM
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#29329
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Sofa GM
I agree, but unrealistic value on retention does not allow this team to move forward. Specific to Markstrom, it eliminates an opportunity to capitalize on getting assets from a leveraged team to help propel the rebuild/retool. Calgary spends to the cap anyhow…. Utilize young skilled players to get experience to pay off later.
Owners should just accept they are paying the full cap amount, and leave the hockey people to build the teams.
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Easier said than done when its not your money. Each owner values retention differently. Some don't care, some care about the return.
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03-08-2024, 11:23 AM
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#29330
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sofa GM
I agree, but unrealistic value on retention does not allow this team to move forward. Specific to Markstrom, it eliminates an opportunity to capitalize on getting assets from a leveraged team to help propel the rebuild/retool. Calgary spends to the cap anyhow…. Utilize young skilled players to get experience to pay off later.
Owners should just accept they are paying the full cap amount, and leave the hockey people to build the teams.
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Why do you get to dictate that it's "unrealistic value"?
I want more trades too but I'm glad they aren't trading just for the hell of it. Set a value and stick to it if it isn't a UFA.
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03-08-2024, 11:25 AM
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#29331
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Southern_Canuck
I did not realize, until today, how much Boudreau looks like Larry "Bud" Melman.
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I love the person though, seems like a fun guy.
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03-08-2024, 11:26 AM
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#29332
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#1 Goaltender
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Boudreau with a great moment earlier talking about how he would play Quinn Hughes at center on team USA. Obviously poking fun at that report that upper management tried to pressure him to do that with the canucks
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03-08-2024, 11:27 AM
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#29333
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Winger market is deeper than I thought. Mang definitely gets traded today. That's my only prediction
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03-08-2024, 11:29 AM
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#29334
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Winger market is deeper than I thought. Mang definitely gets traded today. That's my only prediction
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at 5.8... Naah dog.
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03-08-2024, 11:29 AM
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#29335
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Sec214
at 5.8... Naah dog.
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but at 2.9...
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03-08-2024, 11:30 AM
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#29336
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Sec214
Easier said than done when its not your money. Each owner values retention differently. Some don't care, some care about the return.
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Certainly agree with you, therein lies the problem.
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03-08-2024, 11:30 AM
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#29337
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8
but at 2.9...
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Multiyear....
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03-08-2024, 11:30 AM
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#29338
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burning Beard
Why do you get to dictate that it's "unrealistic value"?
I want more trades too but I'm glad they aren't trading just for the hell of it. Set a value and stick to it if it isn't a UFA.
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Agreed - it's a slippery slope once you reduce your ask, teams think they can start bossing you around.
Reminds me of when Burke held on to UFA Cammalleri at the TDL years ago because teams wouldn't meet his ask. It hurt not to recoup the pick in the short-term, but setting that precedent is important in future dealings (especially for a new GM like Conny, I would imagine).
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03-08-2024, 11:31 AM
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#29339
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
And while it may still be "opinion", statements like "there's no way the market will be as good" seem a lot more like statements of fact.
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Except people have listed reasons why they think that - multiple times. Do they need to be stated every time? It's a message board, sometimes you keep it short and just state the opinion.
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03-08-2024, 11:32 AM
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#29340
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
I love the person though, seems like a fun guy.
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Oh, I don't disagree - Boudreau is one of the top all-time "player's" coaches alongside Alain Vigneault, Pat Quinn, and Marc Crawford.
Definitely opposite of Mike Keenan and Mike Babcock.
It's just that I never realized how much he looks like Larry "Bud" Melman!
S_C
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