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Old 03-07-2024, 03:21 PM   #28701
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If we keep Markstrom until the summer, do we want him to do well so his value stays high, or do we want him to suck so our pick gets better? Lol
Either sucks. Maybe Conroy will just scratch him for the rest of the season in protest lol
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Old 03-07-2024, 03:21 PM   #28702
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Mangi with retention. Now we are talking . I wouldn’t think the return would be anything big even with retention. For me it’s opening a spot for a youngster to learn on the backlund line. Feel everyone of our young hopefuls could do with a tour on backlund line.
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Am I correct that if the flames use their last retention spot on Mangiapane, they will have no retention spots available until July 1st when Hanifin and Tanev’s deals expire? At which point, they would only have 2 retention spots available until Mangiapane’s deal expires on July 1st of 2025.

The only concern I would have for that would be that it means the flames could not retain on any players if they wanted to make a trade at the draft which is two weeks before NHL free agency. I could see some great potential trade value at the draft for players like Markstrom, Coleman or even Andersson (only if it was a big trade offer) by some teams that really want to take a step in the playoffs. Obviously that’s unlikely. These kind of trades might only be possible after July 1st at the earliest.
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Old 03-07-2024, 03:22 PM   #28704
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Here's the Markstrom segment on Barn Burner with Dreger

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I can't imagine what it would be like to for Brad and the brain trust that day.
Connie even said, last fall, they thought it was done that night.
If I remember correctly, Treliving looked completely defeated at the press conference and I can see the slow burning anger under his breathe when he inform the media that Gaudreau decided to go to UFA.
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Old 03-07-2024, 03:22 PM   #28706
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Niederreiter fetched a 2nd last year after scoring 28 points in 56 games and having another year at $4m left. Mangiapane has 34 in 60.

sooo ... with retention, maybe a 2nd and a prospect?
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We’ll have plenty of new legit NHLers after this offseason.

Any decent player with a bad value contract will probably get a sniff from the Flames and more if the sweetener is there.
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There is nothing imminent for sure on Markstrom or at least nothing I am hearing, from what I am hearing the Flames expect to have Markstrom still past deadline day. I am also hearing that Vladar ask is a 2nd rnd pick and that the Flames really don't want to move him. Still think there is #1 goalie upside there and once Markstrom is moved in the offseason they can tandem him and Wolf next season. Teams are definitely calling about Mangiapane who Conroy has put out there as a guy that's available. Hearing this is where they will use their other retention spot if they can get a deal done.
Win-win in my books. Use this year's retention slot to maximize the return for Mangiapane and then make a retention deal with NJ once the retention slot is available.
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Win-win in my books. Use this year's retention slot to maximize the return for Mangiapane and then make a retention deal with NJ once the retention slot is available.
Sucks that it’s not till July 1 though. After the 2024 draft
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Old 03-07-2024, 03:26 PM   #28710
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Either sucks. Maybe Conroy will just scratch him for the rest of the season in protest lol
That might actually work lol plottwist
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Old 03-07-2024, 03:29 PM   #28711
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Sucks that it’s not till July 1 though. After the 2024 draft
A 2025 pick will be ready to go for the opening of the new building. Still fits within Calgary's plan.
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Old 03-07-2024, 03:30 PM   #28712
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Here's the Markstrom segment on Barn Burner with Dreger
Yikes on all of that. Markstrom won’t be worth more in the offseason.
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Old 03-07-2024, 03:30 PM   #28713
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I don’t know how anyone can watch that Dreger segment and think Conroy has autonomy


His cousin is the AGM and he basically just laid out in plain English that ownership is still meddling in trades
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A 2025 pick will be ready to go for the opening of the new building. Still fits within Calgary's plan.
IF it is NJ, I would just love their 2024 pick with the idea that they may still not make the playoffs this year. Even if it was lottery protected, grabbing another top 20 this year would be awesome.

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Old 03-07-2024, 03:31 PM   #28715
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Kessel signing in Vancouver coming. As reported by Chris Johnston.

Maybe that keeps Toffoli away from there after all.
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Old 03-07-2024, 03:34 PM   #28716
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It’s hard enough trying to run a competitive hockey team in a market like Calgary without having to fight against your own upper management group too.

This team is ****ed.
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Old 03-07-2024, 03:34 PM   #28717
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50 percent retained Mangiapane for Berggren and a 24 2nd??

That too ambitious?
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Here's the Markstrom segment on Barn Burner with Dreger

Hmmm, let's see, expedite the retool or potentially lose Markstrom for pennies trying to catch lightning in a bottle...I am hoping this is Conroy and Co. talking through Dreger
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I'm not in a position to claim whether or not Flames ownership is meddling and blocking deals etc, but if they are then IMO the Flames will have a really hard time ever building a true contender properly.

If Conroy had a trade for Markstrom all lined up and ownership stepped in and blocked it because they thought they had a chance at playoffs or whatever, we are screwed. Plain and simple. You have to be a complete effing moron to think this team had a shot at playoffs when they were on the verge of dumping half their top 4 D-core for futures.

I really hope it's not true.
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50 percent retained Mangiapane for Berggren and a 24 2nd??

That too ambitious?
Probably
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