[Trade] Hanifin (salary retained) to Vegas for Miromanov + 2026 1st + cond 3rd

[DazzlinDino]

We don't know the circumstances, we do know that in the past the Flames has a tendency to let players walk. Where would this team be if we had gotten a first for Brodie and Gaudreau. We got nothing for them yet some are rambling about Conroy not getting a kings ransom. If we look at the whole body of work, he did better than a lot of people expected while trying to navigate a number of challenges. He couldn't sign a player who had limited destinations which was more hampered by teams that didn't have a first to offer. He still had to negotiate with these teams while they had a leg up They got a player they wanted and a first,let's look at his whole body of work and cut Conroy some slack. Treliving never got roasted this much for letting guys walk.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Vegas should get in on Guentzel with that other first if they want to ensure they can rebound and have a good run here.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I'd like to know what people are seeing in Miromanov to make him this sought after d-man.

A big body, who skates well.

Heaps of pro experience at a young age over seas.

Entering his prime as a D man 26-27 years old.

Right Shot.

Produces heaps of offense in the AHL.

Familiarity with two roster players.

Briming with confidence.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

Dmen buried on depth charts don't typically turn into foundational pieces.

True story - although Florida just signed a defenseman they claimed off waivers to an 8 year deal (Forsling)

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Knut

Flames should have simply asked for more in the deal.

Probably did not think of that.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

They should've asked for a prospect. Even if you're lukewarm on Vegas' system, pick one put another bullet in the chamber. That's what these trades are all about.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

Dmen buried on depth charts don't typically turn into foundational pieces.

off the top of my head:

Giordano
Weegar
Tanev
Forsling
Marino


All these guys were buried as tweeners or waiver fodder at one point and have become fixture top 4 or better pieces. I'm sure there are many more examples.

[Jason14h]

Hanifin was the Flames 4th best/most important D the past few seasons IMO

He stunk in the playoff series vs Edmonton - STUNK

He has never show any ability to lead a top D pairing or play against the best competition another team has

He is an ideal 3/4 second pairing on a competitive playoff team and a UFA

Maybe teams just didn’t care as much as we thought for “the best available D on the market “

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

Dmen buried on depth charts don't typically turn into foundational pieces.

You expected “foundational pieces”?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

off the top of my head:

Giordano
Weegar
Tanev
Forsling
Marino


All these guys were buried as tweeners or waiver fodder at one point and have become fixture top 4 or better pieces. I'm sure there are many more examples.

You could even add a guy like Devon Toews.

[ben voyonsdonc]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You expected “foundational pieces”?

Hanifin himself isn’t even a foundational piece.

I don’t love the deal. I think the Flames probably would have had a better market when both sides walked away from the original deal that was on the table. The return might have been stronger at that point but he didn’t know that Hanifin would remove a bunch of his leverage with days left to make the deal.

It is what it is. Conroy couldn’t force a team to give more and I know he wouldn’t have taken what he thought was the second best offer. A deal had to be made and it was.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Probably did not think of that.

Doesn’t really look like it

[Southside403]

Going to be interesting few years flames fans hoping for a good future to come been to many floppy years.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Ashes

"Sharangovich couldn't even crack the Devils playoff roster!"

Let's maybe wait and see what a fresh start in a new organization does for him.

26 yrs old, 6'4, 207lb, (RD) Right Shot


2021-22 Henderson Silver Knights (AHL) GP: 53 G:11 A:29 P:40

2022-23 Vegas Golden Knights (NHL) GP: 14 G:2 A:4 P:6

2022-23 Henderson Silver Knights (AHL) GP: 31 G:9 A:13 P:22

2023-24 Henderson Silver Knights (AHL) GP: 5 G:1 A:5 P:6

Why aren't you including his other NHL year's totals?

total: 29gp 1G 6A 7P

[EN FUEGO]

Originally Posted by Knut

Flames should have simply asked for more in the deal.

Given how a negotiation works, I'm sure they did.

[Lewis_D]

Well if they're not dealing Markstrom at the deadline just please try to get something for Vladar. Not really hopeful of that at the moment though, it's looking more likely we'll see Mang dealt at this point.

[cannon7]

Miromanov went from toss in to centerpiece in a hurry, eh? Now anyone calling out this complete 180 are getting attacked.

Guys, Conroy did his best, ok? That's all we can expect. And Big Brain Nonis signed off on it. So it must be a good return.

So let's stop analyzing and just enjoy our regularly scheduled enemas.

Conroy: Can I have Edstrom?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Brisson?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Cormier?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Cataford?
McCrimmon: No.
Conroy: Can I have Miromanov?
McCrimmon: Who? Let me call you back.
(five hours later)
McCrimmon: My team tells me that is a player. So sure. You have a deal. Under two conditions...

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

off the top of my head:

Giordano
Weegar
Tanev
Forsling
Marino


All these guys were buried as tweeners or waiver fodder at one point and have become fixture top 4 or better pieces. I'm sure there are many more examples.

Only player on your list that was waived is Forsling. None of the other players were ever on waivers.

[Braden]

I'm hoping Miromanov has a great season and becomes a tradeable asset next deadline. Similar with Kuzmenko and Sharangovich, I think Conroy is targeting guys like this in deals cause they have potential to keep on giving and tip the scales in Conroy's favor.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I think some posters keep thinking back to the Nieuwendyk for Iginla deal, and expecting something like that to happen again.

But that was never in the cards. Iginla was a top prospect, all right, but the Stars didn't exactly trade him for strops. They got a former Calder Trophy winner and future Hall of Famer, who scored over 500 goals in his career. Hanifin is an excellent player, but he's no Nieuwendyk.

Nieuwendyk was a special player. He was a huge part of Dallas winning the cup in 1999, and that's why they traded Iginla. It was also in the pre-salary cap era where ELCs weren't nearly as important.

Hanifin is not a Niewendyk. ELCs are gold in the salary cap era. If the Stars are concerned about giving up