[Trade] Hanifin (salary retained) to Vegas for Miromanov + 2026 1st + cond 3rd

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by mdubz

Friedman just mentioned a lot of teams were wanting Miromanov and Conroy wanted him as the centrepiece in the deal.

Friedman obvious repeating some PR spin from the Flames. I highly doubt he believes this.

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Sounds like PR spin to me. Players like this are on
waivers all the time.

Yes, they are. 26 year olds with 29 NHL games under their belt are NOT prospects nor are they centerpieces for deals. Players like this are waiver wire fodder.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

No, but he can be used for PR purposes as he often relays what he hears. A lot of what he says is not his opinion, but what others are saying. There could be plenty of spin put on what is said to him.

Exactly. Doing lip service to curry favours down the road.

Look, I don’t purport to know anything but if anyone said this guy would be Conroys target for Hanifin, as the centrepiece, they’d laugh about it. It’s highly risky and highly unlikely he becomes anything notable. If the Flames think they have a diamond in the rough when he’s 26 and no other teams have put enough value to get him out of the minors at this point. It’s a completely PR spin by Conroy or he’s delusional to put that much stock for a proven D, as your centrepiece.

[Paulie Walnuts]

After sleeping on this and praying on it, this isn't as bad as it first felt.

Hopefully Vegas trades that 1st asap.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Friedman obvious repeating some PR spin from the Flames. I highly doubt he believes this.



Yes, they are. 26 year olds with 29 NHL games under their belt are NOT prospects nor are they centerpieces for deals. Players like this are waiver wire fodder.

Thank you. This exactly.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

No, but he can be used for PR purposes as he often relays what he hears. A lot of what he says is not his opinion, but what others are saying. There could be plenty of spin put on what is said to him.

Right....which is exactly what he said today.

Why anyone would automatically assume it came from the Flames only is just....strange to me.

Friedman is probably the one guy among all of that group that gets verification on stuff before running with it.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

When you accuse someone of lying I have to ask - to what end? Is Friedman trying to protect Conroy in your mind? If so, why? He's not some Flames supporter.

Friedman isn't the one making up the bull####... he's just passing it along.

C'mon... you really going to say that some 26 year old guy who thus far as been a NHL tweener was the "Centerpiece" of a deal (above a 1st round pick) for the top D-man on the market? And that a player worthy of being the "centerpiece" in such a deal who had "multiple" teams interested in him and was set to become a free agent would immediately sign a two-year low money contract?

No. That doesn't pass the common sense smell test. Friedman is just doing his job, passing along the information he's given... but the information he's been given and is passing on is pure baloney. It's just PR.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Get over yourself.

I'm replying to a message on a message board with my opinion just like you.

And there are plenty of differences.

Feaster moved Bouwmeester a year early for a weak package. Didn't have to make the move.

Regehr to Buffalo ... didn't have to make the move.

Iginla ... he was boxed in, and he was a UFA. Comparable.

There was talk that Sutter moved Phaneuf without talking to the league ... didn't have to make the move.

Hanifin to Vegas was done in a window with less than 2 days to expiry and a build up that took almost a year.

I can see a difference. If you can't fill your boots.

Don't forget Lydman, and Robert Svehla to a lesser extent. Those two chaffed my arse.

Am I, was I, disappointed in the return. Oh yes. Am I able to recognize that disappointment is 100% because of my own personal wants that were cultivated by the online rumors and reading (toxic) proposals on this board? Hell yea!

It's like looking at that present under the tree and convincing yourself over the week leading up to Christmas that it is the new Nintendo NES system, but it turns out to be pyjamas from that aunt in Rochester in a big box.

Auntie wasn't being an areshole, it was always pyjamas.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Those ages will be what they are for the 2025-26 season, which was clearly stated in the post.

But Whitecloud is currently 27. How will he stay 27 in 2026? His birth year is 1996?

[mdubz]

For what it's worth, Friedman said many teams were "disappointed" that they were unable to get Miromanov.

[Major Major]

I think the Flames have a need that most teams don't. A semi-competent PP point shot. I have no idea about this guy, but the gloss of his shot makes it sound like he's a potential Anton Babchuk type. That would be a win obviously...

[Ashes]

"Sharangovich couldn't even crack the Devils playoff roster!"

Let's maybe wait and see what a fresh start in a new organization does for him.

26 yrs old, 6'4, 207lb, (RD) Right Shot


2021-22 Henderson Silver Knights (AHL) GP: 53 G:11 A:29 P:40

2022-23 Vegas Golden Knights (NHL) GP: 14 G:2 A:4 P:6

2022-23 Henderson Silver Knights (AHL) GP: 31 G:9 A:13 P:22

2023-24 Henderson Silver Knights (AHL) GP: 5 G:1 A:5 P:6

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

But Whitecloud is currently 27. How will he stay 27 in 2026? His birth year is 1996?

Must have looked at Hague's age on capfriendly (they're right together). Doesn't change they will both be in their prime and not going to fall off a cliff.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by mdubz

For what it's worth, Friedman said many teams were "disappointed" that they were unable to get Miromanov.

So Brad tried to get him for a 5th.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Those ages will be what they are for the 2025-26 season, which was clearly stated in the post.

But they're not. They are their present ages. In 25-26 they will be 2 years across the board. Eichel will be 29, Barbashev 30, Karlsson and Stone will be 33, Pietrangelo will be 36.

Plus Vegas won't have $45M if Hague, Brisson, etc are still on the team because they will need contracts before that season.

[EN FUEGO]

Sharangovich and Kuzmenko have 5 of this team's last 7 goals. Give Conny a chance to work....all these folks on here who've never seen the guy play in a game and are instant authorities on the player's potential is odd but expected. Scorpion says the player has potential and has seen him play, I'm optimistic based on Conny's track record so far.

[bdubbs]

Originally Posted by Ashes

"Sharangovich couldn't even crack the Devils playoff roster!"

Let's maybe wait and see what a fresh start in a new organization does for him.

26 yrs old, 6'4, 207lb, (RD) Right Shot


2021-22 Henderson Silver Knights (AHL) GP: 53 G:11 A:29 P:40

2022-23 Vegas Golden Knights (NHL) GP: 14 G:2 A:4 P:6

2022-23 Henderson Silver Knights (AHL) GP: 31 G:9 A:13 P:22

2023-24 Henderson Silver Knights (AHL) GP: 5 G:1 A:5 P:6

Honestly, for a guy who is just 'fodder', those are pretty solid numbers. Even 6 points in 14 NHL games is pretty darn good.

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

After sleeping on this and praying on it, this isn't as bad as it first felt.

Hopefully Vegas trades that 1st asap.

I've kind of warmed up to it as well. At very least, it gives us more opportunities in the draft which is never a bad thing. Was definitely hoping for more but after what Noah's camp did and if it's strictly a rental, then this is as good as it was going to get.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Sounds like PR spin to me. Players like this are on waivers all the time.

What is Friedman getting paid to do PR work for the Flames?

[Manhattanboy]

Well Conroy did not allow an asset walk to FA for nothing so that already makes him an improvement over Treliving.

[jg13]

Not only is a 2026 unprotected 1st > 2025 protected 1st, but if Vegas uses the 2025 1st to get a player like Guentzel it only increases the chances of the conditional 3rd becoming a 2nd.