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Old 03-07-2024, 11:02 AM   #28461
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I wonder if the Devils not re-signing Toffoli means that Holtz won't be traded either. Toffoli is who made Holtz expendable He would be a good addition in exchange for Marsktrom. Mercer, of course, was always my pipe dream.

Having an all-star goalie the next 2 seasons doesn't make much sense IMO
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:03 AM   #28462
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Flames could take on Toffoli for another pick to make the deal. or Mercer, Toffoli + 1st for Markstrom

Flip Toffoli before deadline tomorrow.
You will not get Tofolli, Mercer and a first. We’d be lucky to get Mercer alone.
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More like "GM CRAIG CONditionsROY"

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Flames could take on Toffoli for another pick to make the deal. or Mercer, Toffoli + 1st for Markstrom

Flip Toffoli before deadline tomorrow.
Retain 50% and send him to Vegas for their 2025 first
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I've decided to hinge my mental Health on a Mercer for Markstrom trade. If it doesn't happen I will react like most people here did last night. /sarcasm
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:06 AM   #28466
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I do find it interesting that two teams that acquired Flames players this year are already looking to flip them. You could consider this a win for Conroy.
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:08 AM   #28467
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I do find it interesting that two teams that acquired Flames players this year are already looking to flip them. You could consider this a win for Conroy.
Devils wanted to re-sign Toffoli. Either he's asking for too much or doesn't want to be in New Jersey. Be interesting to see what they get for him (whether it's more or less than the Flames got).
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:08 AM   #28468
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Any rumours on Vegas being in on any players with their 2025 first as the centrepiece? Would love for that pick in the Hanifin trade to be turned into an unprotected first in 2026.
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Any rumours on Vegas being in on any players with their 2025 first as the centrepiece? Would love for that pick in the Hanifin trade to be turned into an unprotected first in 2026.
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:11 AM   #28470
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I will post this hesitantly.

My understanding is this:

There is an ask from Conroy that is not up for negotiation....all that has already occurred.

What that ask is, people can debate but (and this is me filling in the blanks) im sure he wants Mercer and a pick.

The counter, that has already been declined, was Holtz pick/prospect.

So really if NJ wants to re-visit this, all they have to do is move off the untouchable tag on Mercer. Other wise...no deal.

But again, and now that the Flames have 2 retentions on the books, it gets more complicated as to what portion, if any, the Flames cover moving foirward. If NJ does send a Toffoli or someone else out in a separate deal it looks more doable.
I think Mercer and a pick is too much. I'd be fine with just Mercer for Markstrom straight up. I'd even be willing to retain a little bit on Markstrom (20%).
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:11 AM   #28471
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I wonder if the Devils not re-signing Toffoli means that Holtz won't be traded either. Toffoli is who made Holtz expendable He would be a good addition in exchange for Marsktrom. Mercer, of course, was always my pipe dream.

Having an all-star goalie the next 2 seasons doesn't make much sense IMO
I think Fitz made it pretty clear he wants to move on from Holtz
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:13 AM   #28472
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He definitely didn't maximize his assets value, that's for sure!
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:14 AM   #28473
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Apparently Chris Johnson said the devils are gonna take another run at markstrom before the deadline.
All of these reports about the Devils circling back on Markstrom every few days, at this point if he doesn't make the deal and the Devils miss the playoffs from bad goaltending, you'd have to think he might lose his job.

Goaltending has been their Achilles' heel all season, if Markstrom comes in and sneaks them into the playoffs this season and then gets them 2 more solid playoff runs, that should be worth at least one premium asset (Mercer) IMO.

I think the deal goes through, too many eyes on Fitz right now. He waited way too long, but there's still a fool's hope that they can get hot down the stretch.
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:15 AM   #28474
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2025 1st (from Vegas)
For Marky 50% haha

Vegas gets Toff
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:16 AM   #28475
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Feels like 10% chance we trade marky this deadline, 90% in the summer for a bag of pucks
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:18 AM   #28476
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I think Fitz made it pretty clear he wants to move on from Holtz
Great, he can give us Mercer AND Holtz. No 1st needed, just add if he wants retention or (preferably) a cap dump.
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:19 AM   #28477
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I think Mercer and a pick is too much. I'd be fine with just Mercer for Markstrom straight up. I'd even be willing to retain a little bit on Markstrom (20%).
That's fine and you are probably right, but the guy down in the dome right now holds all the cards and he thinks it is fair.

Its why I believe no deal until summer.
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:19 AM   #28478
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Saw a tweet where John Shannon said on a podcast that he thinks Markstrom will be dealt by Friday because his (Markstrom) comments last week put things back in motion.

This would be very interesting if Shannon knew sweet F all.
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:20 AM   #28479
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Devils wanted to re-sign Toffoli. Either he's asking for too much or doesn't want to be in New Jersey. Be interesting to see what they get for him (whether it's more or less than the Flames got).
I suspect he is asking too much. He's not going to find a better situation elsewhere.
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Old 03-07-2024, 11:23 AM   #28480
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Trade deadline is where mistakes are made... Your move Fitz
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