03-06-2024, 09:05 PM
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#1121
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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We were told for a while the Hanifin return was going to suck. Hearing Leslie say they tried to convince him to stay last game was an indication they weren’t getting much for him. He has been available since the draft and the flames moved him less than 2 days before the deadline.
This deal underwhelms but of the 5 UFA’s moved 4 of the returns have underwhelmed initially.
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03-06-2024, 09:05 PM
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#1122
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
Full trade:
To #VGK: Noah Hanifin (75% retained)
To #Flames: Cond. 2025 1st Rd Pick, Daniil Miromanov, Cond. 3rd Rd Pick
To #Flyers: 2024 4th Rd Pick
Condition: 2025 1st unless VGK trades it this deadline, then 2026.
Condition: 3rd upgrades to 2nd if VGK win one round in ‘24
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So, a rental.
Why is anyone surprised at the rental cost being this? Because you worked yourselves up into a frenzy deep diving into the meaning behind gifs???
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03-06-2024, 09:05 PM
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#1123
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
Full trade:
To #VGK: Noah Hanifin (75% retained)
To #Flames: Cond. 2025 1st Rd Pick, Daniil Miromanov, Cond. 3rd Rd Pick
To #Flyers: 2024 4th Rd Pick
Condition: 2025 1st unless VGK trades it this deadline, then 2026.
Condition: 3rd upgrades to 2nd if VGK win one round in ‘24
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That condition on the first seems crazy hahah
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03-06-2024, 09:05 PM
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#1124
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Franchise Player
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This makes some of Jay Feaster’s howlers look like highway robbery.
Just unbelievable.
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03-06-2024, 09:06 PM
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#1125
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daveinspruce
One of the worst trades in Flames history for sure. Last two trades I’m souring fast on CONROY!
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TBH it's tough to call any trade that is a UFA trade the "worst in team history"
Everyone knew that Hanifin was available, if this is the best offer available then there is not a whole lot you can do.
It's disappointing, and ir sucks as a Flames fan that the market seems soft at the deadline this year after being hot last year. But the deadline is generally hit or miss like that.
In the end the biggest mistake that was made was that the team wasn't more proactive in the 2022 offseason or at the 2023 deadline to move some of these guys, so we had 6 prominent UFAs coming into the season.
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03-06-2024, 09:06 PM
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#1126
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agulati
Friedman posted the same return as well
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Well ####
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03-06-2024, 09:06 PM
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#1127
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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This gets any worse and it'll be the Flames giving up a 1st to Vegas.
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03-06-2024, 09:06 PM
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#1128
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Right behind you.
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03-06-2024, 09:06 PM
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#1129
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Crash and Bang Winger
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What an insane condition
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03-06-2024, 09:06 PM
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#1130
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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that original tweet by Dreger was pulled.
Patience everyone...none of this is finalized yet.
Even so, it seems like there were factors working against Conroy here (Brisson tampering behind the scenes for example), so let's not overreact.
Who am I kidding. For all the newbies to CP tonight, this is how we react to everything...
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03-06-2024, 09:06 PM
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#1131
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Central Sierra, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lombo18
18 years.. but close enough.
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The username checks out.
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03-06-2024, 09:06 PM
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#1132
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Franchise Player
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And nothing extra if the 1st gets pushed a year? ####ing hell
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03-06-2024, 09:06 PM
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#1133
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Nov 2003
Exp:  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
Full trade:
To #VGK: Noah Hanifin (75% retained)
To #Flames: Cond. 2025 1st Rd Pick, Daniil Miromanov, Cond. 3rd Rd Pick
To #Flyers: 2024 4th Rd Pick
Condition: 2025 1st unless VGK trades it this deadline, then 2026.
Condition: 3rd upgrades to 2nd if VGK win one round in ‘24
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Oh FFS.. a defensive liability..1st rounder..2nd or 3rd.
Damn
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03-06-2024, 09:07 PM
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#1134
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Franchise Player
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This return, combined with the influence of Hanifin's agent and ultimately the deadline some 40 hours away just makes me double down in my belief that the Flames should have made these trades prior to the draft last year. As time went on, the Flames lost more and more leverage and while I do place a lot of blame on the player, the Flames had the ability to control this more than they showed.
Disappointed.
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03-06-2024, 09:07 PM
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#1135
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
What? That makes no sense. So if Vegas feels they want to trade the 25 pick then the Flames get the 26???
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I like the condition. Vegas more likely to finish lower next season in my opinion. Especially with how they’ll close out this year.
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03-06-2024, 09:07 PM
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#1136
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Scoring Winger
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Wow that’s a brutal return
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03-06-2024, 09:07 PM
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#1137
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trackercowe
Here was a deal last season for a better dman, with term and cost control. Basically the same trade with an extra second round selection.
I really think everyone has been over valuing Hanifin all this time.
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Yes, but that Ottawa pick is like top 5....big difference here.
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03-06-2024, 09:07 PM
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#1138
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Probably stuck driving someone somewhere
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03-06-2024, 09:07 PM
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#1139
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Draft Pick
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Lurker as well but you’ve convinced me to sign in! Thanks to all for posting, great way to get updated Flames info!
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03-06-2024, 09:07 PM
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#1140
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First Line Centre
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Nonplussed. That is the exact word to describe my reaction to this
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