[Rumour] Lightning have contract extension in place for Hanifin if trade can be completed

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Well it sounds like he gets to go to the place he would have signed with. They have some of the worst assets to offer us.

Others teams wouldn’t have just stopped making good offers. So either Tampa is offering an impressive package or Brisson stuck it to us.

I am pretty sure if there was a better offer on the table for Hanifin as a rental, Conroy would take the deal. Odds are the Tampa deal is currently the best one at the moment because that is the only one we are aware of that is for an extended Hanifin.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

No one is forcing him to sign with the team he goes too. He can just accept the trade and go to free agency. Instead him and his agent decided to stick it to the Flames.

I hope we stick it to the next client Brisson reps with us.

He has a 8 team no trade list. He can’t say no to any team besides those 8 teams. The idea of sending him somewhere he will sign with is to increase the return.

[Bubba17]

If it is factual about a sign and trade with the way the agent/Hanifin are pissing around I would get the contract done, without a NTC and turn around and trade him to San Jose out of spite. If it is a sign and trade his contract is with the Flames not the Lightning.

I hope that the Flames ownership group file a complaint with the league against the agent for tampering and get him suspended for the max term of 5 years.

[PepsiFree]

Hanifin should have signed with whoever we wanted to trade him to so that we could get the best return! Boo hoo now I am MAD!

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Because Friedman is reporting Tampa is likely destination. Which is where Hanifin wants to go.

Conroy will make the best deal for the Flames that shouldn’t be a worry for anyone.

What you seem to be missing is there are two types of deals Conroy can pursue. A rental deal where his options will be much more vast, and a signed Hanifin deal where Hanifin has a say in if it happens.

Ideal situation for Calgary is Hanifin isn’t picky on location and it opens up the number of suitors for the signed extension deal, but that’s clearly not the case. If Conroy is leaning towards Hanifin’s preferred destination, it’s because that deal is better than any of the alternatives, ie the rental deals he’s been offered.

[browna]

Flames paying even lip service to Hanifin and his agent is fine with regards to finding a sign and trade deal, it's part of the game and reflects well on the organization in the future with the agent and other players.

Though I'm pretty certain this path to check in the teams he wants to sign long term with has only started in this case, becuase the rental price is set by the Flames and a lineup of teams is willing to pay the price on Friday.

Tampa or whoever else who may want to sign him long term, has to do better than that price and they have a couple days to do it, or less.

All part of the plan.

[Five-hole]

Love to see the appearance from "This post is terrible". It's been a minute!

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Hanifin should have signed with whoever we wanted to trade him to so that we could get the best return! Boo hoo now I am MAD!

No said he has to sign.

I’m just saying they made it very difficult for us. So obviously he was telling teams something and they most likely didn’t come to the table or offered anything good.

A loser way to go out.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Bubba17

If it is factual about a sign and trade with the way the agent/Hanifin are pissing around I would get the contract done, without a NTC and turn around and trade him to San Jose out of spite. If it is a sign and trade his contract is with the Flames not the Lightning.

I hope that the Flames ownership group file a complaint with the league against the agent for tampering and get him suspended for the max term of 5 years.

Nah. This one is Tampa signing the contract, it is just negotiated beforehand. There isn’t any tampering or any need to stick it to Hanifin.
It’s not hard folks. The return will increase if he signs with the team he is going to and Hanifin will gain the ability to sign an 8 year contract.
They can still trade him to any team not on his 8 team no trade but the return will be less because it is a straight rental which they’d know anyways.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

No said he has to sign.

I’m just saying they made it very difficult for us. So obviously he was telling teams something and they most likely didn’t come to the table or offered anything good.

A loser way to go out.

Paulie, he’s an UFA. If you don’t think teams want to know if he’ll sign before they make the move, you’re dreaming.

The difference between Hanifin indicating who he’ll sign with and indicating nothing is the difference between getting a few offers that are better because they could be a sign and trade and getting strictly offers that treat him as a rental.

Hanifin figuring out contract junk helps us.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah either this whole narrative about them "making it hard" is an exaggeration because Hanifin telling teams he won't re-sign isn't abnormal from a pending UFA, and there should still be a market for him as a pure rental.

But if he's doing something else (threatening to not report?) then that would be bush league by his agent. But also the only way that Steinberg saying that Hanifin's camp have somehow vetoed deals would make sense.

Who knows what one it actually is...hopefully just the former.

My gut is Hanifin wants the Panthers or Bruins, Flames are willing to move him there for the right deal, and all this Tampa Bay talk are leaks from his agent trying to put pressure on Boston and Florida to not lose him to a team they could play in round 1.

But if it doesn't happen by Friday he will just get moved to the best package they have without an extension agreed upon.

[iloveicedhockey]

I don't quite understand why people think the only team we can trade with is TB. Noah has a no-trade clause, which we gave him, but he can be sent anywhere else if those teams are interested, with no say in the matter. He has a right to choose his next destination and if him and his agent want the extra year then they'll play ball with those teams where he'll resign and the team should give a little more than the rental price. Otherwise, a 50% retained Hanifin as a rental still holds significant value at the deadline. Conroy isn't going to do Noah any favours; his obligation is to making the flames better and to suggest he isn't is utterly ludicrous.

The sooner a trade happens the better. People are going insane and seeing ghosts.

[Wolfman]

Wow

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Paulie, he’s an UFA. If you don’t think teams want to know if he’ll sign before they make the move, you’re dreaming.

The difference between Hanifin indicating who he’ll sign with and indicating nothing is the difference between getting a few offers that are better because they could be a sign and trade and getting strictly offers that treat him as a rental.

Hanifin figuring out contract junk helps us.

Its mind bottling in here. I think people would have been happier if Hanifin just said he was the testing free agency no matter what.

For all we know the agent is working the media to get another team to step up on a contract and trade offer.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Paulie, he’s an UFA. If you don’t think teams want to know if he’ll sign before they make the move, you’re dreaming.

The difference between Hanifin indicating who he’ll sign with and indicating nothing is the difference between getting a few offers that are better because they could be a sign and trade and getting strictly offers that treat him as a rental.

Hanifin figuring out contract junk helps us.

I got that. We get nervous as well. We traded for two on expiring deals.

I’m just saying we may have teams ready to trade for him as a a rental and it seems like something weird is happening.

Seems like the agent is making this difficult. From what Steinberg is saying.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

No said he has to sign.

I’m just saying they made it very difficult for us. So obviously he was telling teams something and they most likely didn’t come to the table or offered anything good.

A loser way to go out.

Teams expect the opportunity now for players of Hanifin’s caliber to get to try and sign before they make a trade for him. Hanifin had no option I’m guessing but to be honest about where he wants to go, because they were going to want pen to paper from him. No team was going to pay more than rental price on a “I can’t commit but maybe”.

Would it have been better if he didn’t care where he played, sure, but that was never the case. The whole reason we are trading him is because he is picky about where he wants to play, he’s a good enough asset and is in enough demand that he’s going to get choice, and he’s communicated all along he plans on exercising that choice.

Nothing has changed on that, and we are left with deal him as a rental or work with him on where if that trade package is better than the rental options.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yeah either this whole narrative about them "making it hard" is an exaggeration because Hanifin telling teams he won't re-sign isn't abnormal from a pending UFA, and there should still be a market for him as a pure rental.

But if he's doing something else (threatening to not report?) then that would be bush league by his agent. But also the only way that Steinberg saying that Hanifin's camp have somehow vetoed deals would make sense.

Who knows what one it actually is...hopefully just the former.

No, the simplest answer for Hanifin vetoing deals is not waiving for a team on his no trade list or saying he won’t sign with that team. No need for a crazy story about him not reporting.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Hard for the Flames to trade with Tampa or Florida unless they offer up a really good roster player, which is doubtful IMO. A 2026 1st is a player that likely won't see the lineup until the turn of the decade at the earliest. A late first is a player usually on a five or six year development curve. Not sure the Flames are going to want to wait eight or more years for a player. Would have to be way more and more immediate for what Conroy wants to do.

[Sandman]

If Vegas is still interested, I would rather deal with them, as they have the more interesting prospects- Mathieu Cataford, David Edstrom, Brendan Brisson to name a few.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I got that. We get nervous as well. We traded for two on expiring deals.

I’m just saying we may have teams ready to trade for him as a a rental and it seems like something weird is happening.

Seems like the agent is making this difficult. From what Steinberg is saying.

The Flames are better to wait and see if they can trade him to a team he will sign with. If they don’t then he will get traded to whoever has the best offer. There is nothing weird going on.