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Old 03-05-2024, 06:23 PM   #161
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We’ve heard so many versions of the story of why things didn’t close, but still begs the question why Conroy gave the bone of the 4th rounder for salary retention in the Tanev deal. What’s the story there?
Didn't Jersey also get a player/prospect in the deal?
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Old 03-05-2024, 06:24 PM   #162
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We’ve heard so many versions of the story of why things didn’t close, but still begs the question why Conroy gave the bone of the 4th rounder for salary retention in the Tanev deal. What’s the story there?

What do you mean? Dallas paid a 4th to New Jersey to retain 25% of Tanev’s contract.
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Get someone who is close to him find out what his least desired city is, that isn't on his no trade list. Trade him there then the next FA won't try to f*** us around!
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How does Hanifin see tampa? Older team core is on its way out few years. Now if it's Florida I can understand but not tampa they have blown all the futures on trades.
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Old 03-05-2024, 06:29 PM   #165
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He doesn’t have to worry about playoffs pressure

Just enjoy nice beaches and warm winter
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Old 03-05-2024, 06:29 PM   #166
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This is the trend that will only continue. Athletes will continue to demand more say where the play. If they can't get NTCs, they will leverage contract length and free agency to dictate where they go. And they will use that to dictate where they get traded, by making it clear where they are willing to sign and where they are not.

The NBA is the NHL a few years down the road in terms of players really dictating where they play.

This train isn't going to slow down. Toot toot.
Just need the 4 year max contracts and eliminate the Ntc and nmc.
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the biggest issue for me with TB is that a 2026 1st, if part of the package is two years away from even happening.

Then add 3 more years to see if you have a player from it, maybe 4. This is a ~5 year investment. That isn't planning for now, this is planning for 2030. Decent chance the front office won't even see the fruits of their labor, coaching staff will have changed, perhaps twice.
This is way better IMO. I don't expect TBL to fall off anytime soon, but you never know. TBL has top 10 protected their '24 and '25 picks when they traded them so you'd expect the same here, but if that happens then the subsequent year tends to be completely unprotected.

The hockey gods owe us one, particularly at TB's expense!
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He doesn’t have to worry about playoffs pressure

Just enjoy nice beaches and warm winter
And still a pretty decent shot at a cup run for the next 3 years. Pretty nice way to let your career pay off for you.
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Old 03-05-2024, 06:35 PM   #169
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Didn't Jersey also get a player/prospect in the deal?
Nope. They gave up an NCAA goalie in his senior year, whom they weren't going to sign anyway. I gather they couldn't just take on salary in exchange for ‘future considerations’.

Dallas gave the Devils the 4th for their part in the deal. Calgary got Grushnikov, the 2nd, and the conditional pick. Dallas, of course, got Tanev at 25% cap hit, plus the phantom goalie.
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come on sec, please give me a gif to tide me over lol
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come on sec, please give me a gif to tide me over lol
I would even settle for a haiku at this point
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How does Hanifin see tampa? Older team core is on its way out few years. Now if it's Florida I can understand but not tampa they have blown all the futures on trades.
They're not actually old


Stamkos just turned 34 (pending UFA)

Hedman just turned 33

Kucherov turns 31 this summer (so he can probably only lead the league in scoring for a few more years)


Everyone else is on the right side of 30 (Vasi turns 30 this summer). And their cap is in great shape.

They went to 3 straight finals in the last 4 years. Bouncing in rd 1 last year isn't really indicative of anything, nor is their coasting through this season
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I would even settle for a haiku at this point
Hanifin is gone
No one knows what we will get
Or even from where
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Do you think there is any truth to the nemec rumblings? I mean, that would be amazing as a center piece to a trade.

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I don't. There are 4 teams I have heard Hanifin will extend with, Boston, TB, Florida, and NJ. I think a Hanifin with an extension agreed in place + Markstrom would be a Mercer + Holz and something else deal. I can't see the Devils parting with Nemec.
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I don't. There are 4 teams I have heard Hanifin will extend with, Boston, TB, Florida, and NJ. I think a Hanifin with an extension agreed in place + Markstrom would be a Mercer + Holz and something else deal. I can't see the Devils parting with Nemec.
If that something else is a 1st, even if it's in 2025 I'd do it
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What do you mean? Dallas paid a 4th to New Jersey to retain 25% of Tanev’s contract.
One version of the Markstrom situation was that Fitzgerald changed the terms of the deal and Conroy said no. If that’s the case why would Conroy throw him a bone to get involved in the Dallas deal to benefit? Some other team could have done the same and got the return. Doesn’t seem like something Conroy wouldn’t done if Fitzgerald screwed him over days before.
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I don't. There are 4 teams I have heard Hanifin will extend with, Boston, TB, Florida, and NJ. I think a Hanifin with an extension agreed in place + Markstrom would be a Mercer + Holz and something else deal. I can't see the Devils parting with Nemec.
If Devils are getting Hanifin too, I don’t see how Mercer can be off the table. I much prefer Nemec if at all possible however. I’d even take Palat’s contract off their hands.

Markstrom + Hanifin + Mangiapane
Nemec + Palat + Vanecek + 1st
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One version of the Markstrom situation was that Fitzgerald changed the terms of the deal and Conroy said no. If that’s the case why would Conroy throw him a bone to get involved in the Dallas deal to benefit? Some other team could have done the same and got the return. Doesn’t seem like something Conroy wouldn’t done if Fitzgerald screwed him over days before.
Friends close and enemies closer. When he really may be the only desperate GM who wants Marky and clearly the whole world can see as his team just continues to lose games because of goaltending.
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