[Rumour] Lightning have contract extension in place for Hanifin if trade can be completed

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Krynn

It's totally BS that the NHL is letting Hanifins agent tamper with any trades the Flames wanna make. The Flames are not talking to any of the teams on his No Trade List.

It’s done with the flames permission.

Or it doesn’t exist.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I’d take the 1st and prospect but no thanks to pubix 25 already and his 2nd season. Need something more.

Obviously not just Pube

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

isn't Calgary going to have to take on some salary for this to work for TB?

Would Hagel as part of the puzzle be something to consider?

Hagel is a very good player, he is not part of the trade.

[Jiggy_12]

Future draft picks have plenty of value. It’s all about asset acquisition and overall franchise currency.

That 2026 1st has less value this year
More value next year
More value again the year after

You can use that pick to make a trade. You can keep the pick. You can wait and see where the lottery ball lands (if unprotected) and let the value skyrocket.

You’re buying a stock for a lower price and letting it grow.

Even if you draft the player with that pick, you can still trade that player while they are a prospect. A good franchise has strength throughout all upcoming timelines (within reason) as it increases flexibility and allows more aggression at the right moments.

Stock up. It’s the bloodline of the organization from a player and from an asset standpoint

[topfiverecords]

This pretty much confirms Sec is connected to Flames management, and not scouts or player agents.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I’d take the 1st and prospect but no thanks to pubix 25 already and his 2nd season. Need something more.

What if he is a throw in like Kuzmenko?

They can use a dman. Right now they have 4 legit dmen after the trade

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

This pretty much confirms Sec is connected to Flames management, and not scouts or player agents.

He IS Conroy, wouldn't it be fun just to post GIFs of the moves you are going to make to a fan site?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by aaronkarlpatton

That is encouraging. This tells me (just speculation mind you) that jersey is all in on both Hanny and Marky.

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NJ definitely has interest in both players. They have to come off their hold onto Mercer outlook though for any traction there.

[aaronkarlpatton]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

NJ definitely has interest in both players. They have to come off their hold onto Mercer outlook though for any traction there.

Do you think there is any truth to the nemec rumblings? I mean, that would be amazing as a center piece to a trade.

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[bax]

Originally Posted by butterfly

What’s the immediacy? Who cares if they’re 12 or 15 or 18? It’s a future Flame prospect. They don’t need to be ready to roll tomorrow. Some of us care about setting up a prospect pipeline.

I wish GMs thought this way, I’d rip two 1st rounders 4 and 5 years in the future instead of 1 in 3 months.

Because it’s about value. A first round pick that is 3 drafts away is less valuable than a pick in the upcoming draft. A pick three years out doesn’t accelerate the rebuild.

Hanifin is a top tier asset in his prime. If that’s the best you can get for him, it’s not good enough.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

This is the trend that will only continue. Athletes will continue to demand more say where the play. If they can't get NTCs, they will leverage contract length and free agency to dictate where they go. And they will use that to dictate where they get traded, by making it clear where they are willing to sign and where they are not.

The NBA is the NHL a few years down the road in terms of players really dictating where they play.

This train isn't going to slow down. Toot toot.

Isn't the answer then to sign guys to longer contracts than you (may) want...and then trade them with 1 or 2 years left....sometimes to places they do NOT want to go...hardball works both directions, and serious negotiations are better done amicably.

[sticktrick]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

This pretty much confirms Sec is connected to Flames management, and not scouts or player agents.

I think so too. Someone legitimately connected and understands how to release the tidbits of information professionally and tastefully without getting into trouble... either media or perhaps someone in close administrative capacity that is somewhat linked to the Flames.

Great stuff, Sec. Keep up with the GIFs, ignore the naysayers and negative peeps here on the forum. The majority of us love what you provide and find the GIFs fun and entertaining, it makes CalgaryPuck what it is; the de facto unofficial source for anything and everything fun and exciting about the flames. It's posters like Sec that make CP what it is: Awesome.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by bax

Because it’s about value. A first round pick that is 3 drafts away is less valuable than a pick in the upcoming draft. A pick three years out doesn’t accelerate the rebuild.

Hanifin is a top tier asset in his prime. If that’s the best you can get for him, it’s not good enough.

It’s not of less value… it’s the same value, possibly better just further away

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

This pretty much confirms Sec is connected to Flames management, and not scouts or player agents.

Didn't Sec say something about being at the recent draft .. Sec and dissentowner, help keep things civil and on the right track. Without those guys the forum would probably be quite unbearable and a bunch of fans feeling discouraged.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

NJ definitely has interest in both players. They have to come off their hold onto Mercer outlook though for any traction there.

Wait what?? Fitz is interested in obtaining both players without putting mercer in the deal? That man is on crack

[bax]

Originally Posted by rhino

It’s not of less value… it’s the same value, possibly better just further away

The fact that it’s 3 years away is exactly why it’s less valuable. You’re not seeing a return on trading away a top pairing defenseman in his prime for 7-8 years.

You’d have to think the Flames are hoping to compete before then.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

I really like the 2026 unprotected first if that’s part of this deal. Very attractive asset IMO. Tampa is on its way down.

It won't be unprotected. The league is too wise to that now.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

So much misinformation these days. It's impossible to make hide nor hair of what's going on with the Flames. Are all teams the same, or is this uniquely a Flames experience?

Well it's even more unique if you follow CP for trade info/discussion. There's like 19000 insiders between here, the rest of the internet and media. It's a little convoluted and hard to follow at this point, lol.

[Flamesfan05]

Conroy can wait till the last second if all he got is a 1st and some C prospects

[bluejays]

We’ve heard so many versions of the story of why things didn’t close, but still begs the question why Conroy gave the bone of the 4th rounder for salary retention in the Tanev deal. What’s the story there?