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Old 03-04-2024, 04:38 PM   #26861
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Old 03-04-2024, 04:38 PM   #26862
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So do you know if Markstrom was angry at Conroy and company, or the Jersey side of things? Or maybe both?
I think it was a miss understanding and the passion came through.

Markstrom is a different type of athlete.
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Old 03-04-2024, 04:39 PM   #26863
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I think it was Friedman that mentioned he heard from one NHL GM that the Flames are an example of a team that you do not want to meet in the playoffs with the way Markstrom is playing this year (before they moved Tanev).
Flames aren't making the POs, but if they did, they could upset a team. They've had great games versus top teams.
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Old 03-04-2024, 04:41 PM   #26864
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I think it was a miss understanding and the passion came through.

Markstrom is a different type of athlete.
I like his fire!
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Old 03-04-2024, 04:43 PM   #26865
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I think it was a miss understanding and the passion came through.

Markstrom is a different type of athlete.
You have to wonder what information JM had at the moment he answered that question.

Had he only read/heard the media speculation?

Had his agent spoken to Conroy at that point on what was happening? If so, would Conroy be able to divulge everything?

Seems like a lot of stuff was swirling at that point.
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Old 03-04-2024, 04:46 PM   #26866
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Murray doesn't simply give money away but he isn't afraid to spend it. Reality is, Conroy's price hasn't been met... with or without retention.

When things started to get serious with NJD Talks about Markstrom,he went to his camp to ensure he wasnt wasting anyone's time. Once NJD knew he would waive they went all wild and changed the structure of the agreement, trying to put pressure on Conroy. "Well you boy said he wanted to come here, so how about you take this instead." Jersey attempted to use to media to pressure the fresh GM to try and get him to make a mistake. I have reported this many times before. It didn't work, Fitz looks like a clown.

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Well f&$k Fitz if that was the case. I'm glad Conroy held firm.
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Old 03-04-2024, 04:49 PM   #26867
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Murray doesn't simply give money away but he isn't afraid to spend it. Reality is, Conroy's price hasn't been met... with or without retention.

When things started to get serious with NJD Talks about Markstrom,he went to his camp to ensure he wasnt wasting anyone's time. Once NJD knew he would waive they went all wild and changed the structure of the agreement, trying to put pressure on Conroy. "Well you boy said he wanted to come here, so how about you take this instead." Jersey attempted to use to media to pressure the fresh GM to try and get him to make a mistake. I have reported this many times before. It didn't work, Fitz looks like a clown.

Patrick Morris is one of the best in the WORLD when it comes to sport agency of hockey.

Wish you were a legit media guy and could post this on TSN or something. Italian frank needs to be taken down a peg.

The part that really sucks is that media is portraying conroy and ownership as the clown and not fitz.

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Old 03-04-2024, 04:49 PM   #26868
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I wonder if we can get New Jersey to make this trade before they play another game.

The more losses piling up the less likely they engage and give up more.
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Old 03-04-2024, 04:51 PM   #26869
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Murray doesn't simply give money away but he isn't afraid to spend it. Reality is, Conroy's price hasn't been met... with or without retention.

When things started to get serious with NJD Talks about Markstrom,he went to his camp to ensure he wasnt wasting anyone's time. Once NJD knew he would waive they went all wild and changed the structure of the agreement, trying to put pressure on Conroy. "Well you boy said he wanted to come here, so how about you take this instead." Jersey attempted to use to media to pressure the fresh GM to try and get him to make a mistake. I have reported this many times before. It didn't work, Fitz looks like a clown.

Patrick Morris is one of the best in the WORLD when it comes to sport agency of hockey.
I knew it was Jersey's camp leaking everything and trying to pressure Conroy into giving in. Really pisses me off. Then you've got knuckleheads on NHL network slagging the Flames and Conroy over this garbage and it's likely as you say, Jersey being idiots.

This deal should have been done weeks ago. What a joke.
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Old 03-04-2024, 04:51 PM   #26870
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This tracks with how all these leaks have come out, definitely feels like Fitz trying to negotiate through the media. Now he looks like a clown for not getting a deal done earlier when they had a chance at making the playoffs.
And then he fires his coach. Seems either desperate or incompetent or both.
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I wonder if we can get New Jersey to make this trade before they play another game.

The more losses piling up the less likely they engage and give up more.
Well they play tomorrow night, so even if a deal happened right now, its really unlikely JM would be able to play for them at that point.
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Hearing TB has offered their 2026 1st, Howard, and their 3rd pick in 2024 draft for an extended Hanifin. If that is accurate that would be a decent haul if things with Florida don't get done.
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I wonder if there is any lingering resentment underneath from NJD due to the Toffoli trade.

I mean, that would be stupid but they gave up the younger, more controllable and cheaper player plus a pick, then Sharangovich rebounded in Calgary and has put up similar numbers to the older more expensive Toffoli.
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I wonder if we can get New Jersey to make this trade before they play another game.

The more losses piling up the less likely they engage and give up more.
I think they know the ask its up to them to table it now. Connie can't do much more at this point, he may have played this beautifully.
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Old 03-04-2024, 04:54 PM   #26875
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Well they play tomorrow night, so even if a deal happened right now, its really unlikely JM would be able to play for them at that point.
That's my major concern now too for this trade getting done, visas can take a couple days to figure out. Sounds like Fitz is desperate though, man he handled this like a child. Proud of Conroy, we have a good one there.
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I wonder if we can get New Jersey to make this trade before they play another game.

The more losses piling up the less likely they engage and give up more.
After reading sec post… screw jersey. Trade Markstrom to one of the other teams in their division in summer.
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Murray doesn't simply give money away but he isn't afraid to spend it. Reality is, Conroy's price hasn't been met... with or without retention.

When things started to get serious with NJD Talks about Markstrom,he went to his camp to ensure he wasnt wasting anyone's time. Once NJD knew he would waive they went all wild and changed the structure of the agreement, trying to put pressure on Conroy. "Well you boy said he wanted to come here, so how about you take this instead." Jersey attempted to use to media to pressure the fresh GM to try and get him to make a mistake. I have reported this many times before. It didn't work, Fitz looks like a clown.

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Really really appreciate all your work Sec. You add an extra level of excitement to this community!
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Hearing TB has offered their 2026 1st, Howard, and their 3rd pick in 2024 draft for an extended Hanifin. If that is accurate that would be a decent haul if things with Florida don't get done.
What do we know about Howard? A prospect? B?
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Hearing TB has offered their 2026 1st, Howard, and their 3rd pick in 2024 draft for an extended Hanifin. If that is accurate that would be a decent haul if things with Florida don't get done.
Didn’t think there was any chance Tampa would trade their 2026 1st and Howard . Figured it would be one or the other. Florida you got 24 hours to beat that offer.
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I think it was a miss understanding and the passion came through.

Markstrom is a different type of athlete.
Oh competitive sports.. the only professional area of work where people are revered for lacking emotional regulation.

I wish I could tell people off and just have it chalked up to "he's just a competitive guy"

Not to mention doing whatever Kane and Perry did and still getting hired elsewhere no harm done.
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