2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[StrykerSteve]

Mercer, Casey and ‘24 1st for Marky (50% retained) and ‘24 4th (from Jersey).

Git ‘er dun.

[Heavy Jack]

Ohhhh that would be oh so beautiful

Make it so

[Jiggy_12]

It would be really satisfying if Conroy ends up snagging Mercer. Because he's a great young player who fits like a glove here, but also because of everyone who panicked when Conroy didn't make a deal for a lesser return two weeks ago.

[SuperMatt18]

Mercer
2025 2nd (become's 1st if Devils make the ECF in 2024 or 2025)
Casey

for

Markstrom (33% retention)
Rooney

That will be my guess.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Not for a minute buying the Edwards meddling part.

Flames routinely a spend to the cap team
Flames retained on a salary already this year
Flames shelled out a massive contract for Huby sight unseen

All this talk about how Murray is a penny pincher has been slowly dispelled since the Huberdeau signing IMO, Murray doesn’t seem to have any issues with handing out money in a variety of ways and it seems Craig Conroy has the gumption to use the different tools at hand to weaponize many aspects of the cap. Looking forward to his work over the next few days!

Murray doesn't simply give money away but he isn't afraid to spend it. Reality is, Conroy's price hasn't been met... with or without retention.

When things started to get serious with NJD Talks about Markstrom,he went to his camp to ensure he wasnt wasting anyone's time. Once NJD knew he would waive they went all wild and changed the structure of the agreement, trying to put pressure on Conroy. "Well you boy said he wanted to come here, so how about you take this instead." Jersey attempted to use to media to pressure the fresh GM to try and get him to make a mistake. I have reported this many times before. It didn't work, Fitz looks like a clown.

Patrick Morris is one of the best in the WORLD when it comes to sport agency of hockey.

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by FBI

Come onnnnnnn eyeballs

I mean there are many videos out there if that's what you want

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Murray doesn't simply give money away but he isn't afraid to spend it. Reality is, Conroy's price hasn't been met... with or without retention.

When things started to get serious with NJD Talks about Markstrom,he went to his camp to ensure he wasnt wasting anyone's time. Once NJD knew he would waive they went all wild and changed the structure of the agreement, trying to put pressure on Conroy. "Well you boy said he wanted to come here, so how about you take this instead." Jersey attempted to use to media to pressure the fresh GM to try and get him to make a mistake. I have reported this many times before. It didn't work, Fitz looks like a clown.

Patrick Morris is one of the best in the WORLD when it comes to sport agency of hockey.

Connie will not be conned

[stemit14]

I honestly can’t believe it got to this point. Whatever happened and whoever is responsible on either side (I’m sure it’s a mix of a few people and circumstance)… it’s kind of crazy this deal did not get done.

-Flames have a bonafide starting goalie who is having his best season ever and the flames are willing to trade him.
-New Jersey is a team loaded with young talent who has made lots of high picks over the years and is ready to be a yearly contender in the playoffs.
-New Jersey is deep at forward and defence but lacks any kind of quality goaltending both on the big club and in the prospect pool.
-With Dougie on LTIR for the season, New Jersey has the cap space.

It’s such a perfect fit… at least it was 3 weeks ago when this all started and New Jersey was still in striking distance.

I get that New Jersey thought the price for retention was too high… none of us know for sure what that price was but why did they wait 3 weeks before changing their mind and considering a trade without retention?

It feels like such a missed opportunity all around.

[Muta]

Man, that makes NJ look like a bunch of clowns if true. Conroy was like, "aw hell naw, #### yo shenanigans!"

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

It would be really satisfying if Conroy ends up snagging Mercer. Because he's a great young player who fits like a glove here, but also because of everyone who panicked when Conroy didn't make a deal for a lesser return two weeks ago.

We get Mercer and a first then get another first and a prospect for Hanifin im a happy camper. Essentially my entire list of problems has been addressed center depth and defensive depth as well as picking up more draft picks. Pull it off and all i can say is bravo good sir conroy!

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

I mean there are many videos out there if that's what you want

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Murray doesn't simply give money away but he isn't afraid to spend it. Reality is, Conroy's price hasn't been met... with or without retention.

When things started to get serious with NJD Talks about Markstrom,he went to his camp to ensure he wasnt wasting anyone's time. Once NJD knew he would waive they went all wild and changed the structure of the agreement, trying to put pressure on Conroy. "Well you boy said he wanted to come here, so how about you take this instead." Jersey attempted to use to media to pressure the fresh GM to try and get him to make a mistake. I have reported this many times before. It didn't work, Fitz looks like a clown.

Patrick Morris is one of the best in the WORLD when it comes to sport agency of hockey.

I have no worries with the team at the helm, so happy to see the direction being taken. I wasn’t insinuating that Huby was ‘dumb’ money either, so apologies if that’s how it came across, I just feel that the ownership group has shown time and again they have no qualms spending to the cap, it’s just right now it feels like with have a true visionary in Conroy who gets all levels of the puzzle. It’s beyond refreshing; Ty for the window you have been providing the fan base as well, it’s fascinating and incredibly fun to discuss!

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

I don't see a ton of uncertainty personally anymore. There was, but a lot of things have been dealt with and been improved.

Locker room? Much better than last year
Prospects? Deeper
Draft picks? Lots more of them
Results on the ice? Comparable
UFA's? Out the door

We have 1 UFA left to trade. We need to sign Kylington. We need to solve the goaltending situation...though this isn't really a problem. It just needs a direction.

This summer we get to draft lots of players, maybe sign a few free agents and see what happens from there.

The team is actually not bad.

I think it was Friedman that mentioned he heard from one NHL GM that the Flames are an example of a team that you do not want to meet in the playoffs with the way Markstrom is playing this year (before they moved Tanev).

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Most important to me is getting some first round picks. Obviously I’d love to have Mercer but, at this point, for Fitz to give in and trade him now he would look even worse for waiting this long. He’s boxed himself into a corner where if he makes the trade and Conroy gets Mercer, it will likely be regarded as win for Conroy more than Fitz because he’s waited too long and they are in tough to make the playoffs. Would rather not ha

If it’s Casey + 2024 first round pick (top ten protected) + 2024 2nd round pick then I would be happy. Not as good as getting Mercer of course but imagine being told in September that the Flames would get a package like that for Markstrom without retention.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Sec214

The Quake GIF was related to a text I got, Saying something big happening in new jersey but I couldn't get any follow up and post anything until it became public. I'm told this firing is more to do with an upset room than lindy's coaching.

Devil's are not packing it in on this season despite having the same odds as the flames of making the playoffs according to MoneyPuck model that is used by a lot of teams league wide 18-20%.

Markstrom was upset the was told he was being traded and then it didn't happen. I bet the Devils are upset over the exact same thing, given their comments.

[atb]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Murray doesn't simply give money away but he isn't afraid to spend it. Reality is, Conroy's price hasn't been met... with or without retention.

When things started to get serious with NJD Talks about Markstrom,he went to his camp to ensure he wasnt wasting anyone's time. Once NJD knew he would waive they went all wild and changed the structure of the agreement, trying to put pressure on Conroy. "Well you boy said he wanted to come here, so how about you take this instead." Jersey attempted to use to media to pressure the fresh GM to try and get him to make a mistake. I have reported this many times before. It didn't work, Fitz looks like a clown.

Patrick Morris is one of the best in the WORLD when it comes to sport agency of hockey.

This tracks with how all these leaks have come out, definitely feels like Fitz trying to negotiate through the media. Now he looks like a clown for not getting a deal done earlier when they had a chance at making the playoffs.

[Heavy Jack]

Man it feels like the calm before the storm here

[JurassicTunga12]

The dream deadline is Markstrom for Mercer+ and Hanifin for Lundell+

Very unlikely, but... hey it's fun to imagine.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Murray doesn't simply give money away but he isn't afraid to spend it. Reality is, Conroy's price hasn't been met... with or without retention.

When things started to get serious with NJD Talks about Markstrom,he went to his camp to ensure he wasnt wasting anyone's time. Once NJD knew he would waive they went all wild and changed the structure of the agreement, trying to put pressure on Conroy. "Well you boy said he wanted to come here, so how about you take this instead." Jersey attempted to use to media to pressure the fresh GM to try and get him to make a mistake. I have reported this many times before. It didn't work, Fitz looks like a clown.

Patrick Morris is one of the best in the WORLD when it comes to sport agency of hockey.

So do you know if Markstrom was angry at Conroy and company, or the Jersey side of things? Or maybe both?

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Murray doesn't simply give money away but he isn't afraid to spend it. Reality is, Conroy's price hasn't been met... with or without retention.

When things started to get serious with NJD Talks about Markstrom,he went to his camp to ensure he wasnt wasting anyone's time. Once NJD knew he would waive they went all wild and changed the structure of the agreement, trying to put pressure on Conroy. "Well you boy said he wanted to come here, so how about you take this instead." Jersey attempted to use to media to pressure the fresh GM to try and get him to make a mistake. I have reported this many times before. It didn't work, Fitz looks like a clown.

Patrick Morris is one of the best in the WORLD when it comes to sport agency of hockey.

Kypreos is the only other insider to also mention this (today on Kyper and Bourne) apart from Sec.