[Rumour] NJD willing to trade for Markstrom in offseason if deal not reached before deadline

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by butterfly

How come Boston is strong enough to handle their business without Ullmark, and we're going to get the heart ripped out of us?

Because he’s their second best goalie.

Markstrom, meanwhile, the best player on the entire team right now.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Swayman is pushing Ullmark, no one is pushing Markstrom.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The heart was ripped out when Tanev was traded. He was talked about as being a captain in the room.

[D as in David]

Conroy has a good hand and he's playing it well to get what he wants. If he doesn't get what he wants, he's willing to play the hand again in the off-season.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Because he’s their second best goalie.

Markstrom, meanwhile, the best player on the entire team right now.

But he's the Defending Vezina Winner™! You mean to say goalies are that volatile?

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

One thing you can now see with Friedman is he carefully uses two words depending on how much information he knows. When he says....

"I think", EF means he is connecting dots, educated guessing vs been told something directly.

"I believe", EF means he has been told something.

He will correct himself to change these words when speaking live.

Anyone else notice this? Or just me.

For instance, start at minute 2:00....

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He’s gotten so much worse recently too. “It wouldn’t surprise me if that’s something they’d look at…”

[Torture]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Conroy has a good hand and he's playing it well to get what he wants. If he doesn't get what he wants, he's willing to play the hand again in the off-season.

Yep. No rush, Conroy shouldn't be feeling pressure to make the move here it's all on Fitz.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The heart was ripped out when Tanev was traded. He was talked about as being a captain in the room.

And yet the Flames came together in the last 10 mins of a game they had no business being in to will a win. The only reason they were able to even push for a comeback though was Marky holding the fort down, he’s undoubtedly been the driving force behind the flames current position in the standings.

[Muta]

I have a feeling Tanev will be a Flame again next season. Just a hunch though.

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by Muta

I have a feeling Tanev will be a Flame again next season. Just a hunch though.

I want to believe this is true

[Bubba17]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

No, but that isn't tampering if something leaked.

Dim Jim in Vancouver got fined $50,000 a couple years ago for mentioning he would like a player on another team that was under contract.

It is fine to talk about how good a player is but when you are mentioning you would like them to join your team it is tampering:

directly or indirectly (by themselves or through another acting on their behalf) with the intent to solicit or entice a Contracted Player is guilty of tampering and shall be suspended for a minimum of one (1) month to a maximum of five (5) years unless coach has written approval from current in-season organization ...

[Heavy Jack]

He already knows the flames were set on giving him a 3 x 4.5 which is likely more than he could get in the open market. I still think Tanev values winning a great deal and he wants a shot at the cup so if the Stars disappoint this playoffs then I could see him look at a 1 year deal with a contender for another shot.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Muta

I have a feeling Tanev will be a Flame again next season. Just a hunch though.

Probably depends on his experience in Texas and if greener pastures actually feel greener to him.

By all accounts, he's very fond of calgary (the place) and was treated very well with his departure.

I think in the end, this was about getting a real shot at the prize now, since the Flames weren't going to be making a bid this spring.

Wouldn't write it off.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by butterfly

But he's the Defending Vezina Winner™! You mean to say goalies are that volatile?

Don’t be afraid to just make your point. You can do it.

[Ozy_Flame]

Personally I think a higher chance of coming back to Calgary if Dallas wins it this year IMO.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

No chance Markstroms comment did anything to the players in the locker room to get them undivided .

I think you mean, "divided"? But based on Saturday's character comeback win, I'm leaning towards agreeing with you.

I do believe that based on Markstrom's answers to Francis' questions, he likely wants to move out now whereas I felt like before all this drama, he wanted to stay and be a part of Conroy's plan going forward. Whatever he's upset about, to come out and call senior management out directly is a line you can't really come back from. Really unfortunate if this is the case as Markstrom's been one of the city and organization's strongest supporters. Pretty sad, actually and I don't blame Markstrom at all for speaking his mind.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Personally I think a higher chance of coming back to Calgary if Dallas wins it this year IMO.

Or you come back to Calgary on a 1 year deal and wait to see who the contenders are come deadline time!

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

IMO, that is a huge mistake on Conroy's part if it's true. To worry about ripping the room part? Tanev, Lindholm, Zadorov and Hanifin have been traded or will be moved. The team knows that they aren't buyers and are sellers already. If Calgary was in a playoff spot I would get it but they are 7 points out with 22 games left. The chances of them making it are what, like 10 percent? The highest value he has is at the deadline and he is already 34 years old. Holding on to him for that reason is an awful move IMO especially with no salary retention now.

Well said. Considering the other bodies that have left the room this season, why start worrying about chemistry right now? Damage is done. I would suggest that there might be better chemistry with another young guy brought up who is going to need to bond with his teammates going forward.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Of course an Oiler fan doesn't worry about chemistry in the room.

Stupid comment. Team affiliation has nothing to do with this issue.

It's not just about winning now.

You're right. It's about winning next year, and the year after, and the year after that. This is all about the future and Markstrom is clearly not part of that future. Better to move on from a player when their value is at a height not seen in recent years and take advantage of a team willing to overpay than sit on that asset and watch opportunity go by. Get a good haul for a guy who is clearly not in the plan.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Don’t be afraid to just make your point. You can do it.

The locker room's fragility sounds like it's on the level of Markstrom's in the Edmonton series. With him, they're seven points out of the playoffs.

If Boston can reportedly trade an actual Vezina winner (not finalist) and handle it, what are we shaking in our boots about to keep the locker room happy? Happy to miss the playoffs without Sutter instead of with him?

And if we don't expect them to make the playoffs - a very defendable position to take - why do we have Markstrom anyway? To pick 13th instead of 7th but have a happy locker room?

[Jason14h]

All Markstrum is doing is preventing the Flames from having a better draft pick in this years draft

Tij might go around 10th . Sure would be nice to have him to add to the prospect cupboard vs someone at 15th

Unless people truely believe the Flames can make the playoffs this year

The “Room” does not matter at all for the future success of this team . In 4 years when they (best case IMO) are ready to compete there may be 4-5 players left from this roster max

Trade Markstrum for best deal , tank to 10th , draft Tij and be patient and weaponize cap space in offseason and this will have been a near perfect year