Would that not set us up for another issue next year if he continues to play well. I’d be comfortable with 5 years at $3M or so.
I don't think so. I go back to his comments about how loyal the team has been to him and how he feels about the team. I believe he said something to the effect of how he wouldn't play for anyone else. I say take it slow, and don't throw any additional pressure of a big money / long term deal into it right away.
3years @$2.5M makes sense to me for both sides.
For Kylington it gives him 3 years to not worry about it and he'll be 29 going into UFA where he could potentially cash in. For the Flames the length is short enough that if Oliver has anymore problems the contract doesn't cripple you while at the same time it gives Calgary time to re-evaluate him and potentially extend him after two more years. I don't think any longer than that makes sense right now.
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Bit off topic but what are with thinking OK’s contract will look like?
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Seravelli reported that Anaheim's ask for Henrique is a 2nd and a 3rd.
I think that's a fair price. Has 41 points this season and is a good player to play in a role as a 3rd line center. Is an even +/- player on a terrible Ducks team. In the last 10 years he usually puts up 40-50 points in a season as well so he's pretty consistent.
Its a tough call. There is the personal side, and the business side. He's playing extremely well, and you hope he's in a good head space. But you can't guarantee that and he has a recent history of requiring that time away. I think a 1 year deal, not so much a prove it, but a "let's make sure you're in a good space" deal would work and given he's had 2 years at $2.5M where he played maybe a 1/4 of that contract its fair to the Flames and to Oliver who has expressed his gratitude and loyalty to the team. Play the year, take it day by day and talk long term extension a year from then. No more added pressure to what has already been a tough go of it.
Totally agree, and that's where the gambling comes in. If I were actually the GM, common sense would likely prevail, but boy, could an 8 year contract ever be a home run if Kylington plays it out and progresses as he was before he took his time and after he's come back.
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Seravelli reported that Anaheim's ask for Henrique is a 2nd and a 3rd.
I think that's a fair price. Has 41 points this season and is a good player to play in a role as a 3rd line center. Is an even +/- player on a terrible Ducks team. In the last 10 years he usually puts up 40-50 points in a season as well so he's pretty consistent.
I’m guessing he winds up with the Rangers.
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Stone Cold Steve Austin >>> Steve Austin was also the name of the main character on the show The Six Million Dollar Man >>> Markstrom has a cap hit of $6 million.
Are you really sure that Stone Cold Steve Austin >>> Steve Austin?
I mean, look how much slow motion can do for a bionic mullet
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3years @$2.5M makes sense to me for both sides.
For Kylington it gives him 3 years to not worry about it and he'll be 29 going into UFA where he could potentially cash in. For the Flames the length is short enough that if Oliver has anymore problems the contract doesn't cripple you while at the same time it gives Calgary time to re-evaluate him and potentially extend him after two more years. I don't think any longer than that makes sense right now.
I would personally prefer a longer term deal. Cap space is almost irrelevant over the next couple years so there really is not a contract that can cripple them when they are rebuilding. If there are issues you would just put him on LTIR when you are competitive and have extra cap space.
Stone Cold Steve Austin >>> Steve Austin was also the name of the main character on the show The Six Million Dollar Man >>> Markstrom has a cap hit of $6 million.
Plus, similar to the 6 million dollar man, Markstrom has become better after being injured.
Shocking they are pulling this crap yet again. He will be back for game 1. Fix the goddamn cap so it counts in the playoffs already.
That would considerably impact the Flames in a year like this one where they are trying to offload their UFA's. It would significantly reduce the # of buyers and what they would be able to offer.
Can someone briefly explain to me how Hanifin and his agent are significantly hurting our return by telling some teams he won't resign with them? I figured that any team offering up significant assets would want an extension in place prior anyway? So the 5 team list of his preferred destinations would still have to send a strong offer to outbid each other no?
Totally agree, and that's where the gambling comes in. If I were actually the GM, common sense would likely prevail, but boy, could an 8 year contract ever be a home run if Kylington plays it out and progresses as he was before he took his time and after he's come back.
It could be a home run, yes. It could also be a disaster, if the situation we saw over the last couple years returns. Obviously, no one wants to see that, but it would be prudent to move with caution.
Also, the player has to agree, and you can count the number of 8 X low-dollar contracts that have been signed over the years on one hand, and still have some fingers to spare.
I think 2-3 years in the $2.3M range is appropriate. The only way I would offer him a raise would be if he took more term (3 years).
The real solution is to let teams more aggressively trade salary cap, but have the cap count in the playoffs.
Allows teams to still load up at the end of seasons, but also allows teams to monetize their extra salary cap space and get assets to help them become competitive again.
If the Flames are not retaining on Markstrom this year, and Hanifin doesn't need retention we should be offering 2 retention spots to Vegas to help them facilitate trades.
Kylington has technically been in the organization the 4th longest after Backlund, Rafikov, and Andersson.
And he was picked just minutes after Andersson. And Rafikov is barely existent.
It's funny, because we still haven't really seen that much of Kylington. Hopefully he stays a good while longer.
