[Trade] Flames trade Tanev (double retention) to Dallas for 2nd, cond. 3rd, Grushnikov

[Super-Rye]

I like this trade. Grushnikov seems intriguing and it sounds like if he hits he becomes an ideal partner for one of the young offensive dmen the Flames have in the system. An early pick, maybe a second pick if we're lucky.

I like the way this team has been drafting recently. I like the idea of getting them more kicks at the can while also getting a young guy they clearly like and helps fill a need in the Flames system.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

and Pachal is 24

I had no idea that Pachal is only 24!

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by dino7c

By this logic never trade for picks

Interesting statement. I wonder what type of prospect(s) the Flames could have got for Tanev if that is all they received, and no picks.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

NJD take on salary to help broker the deal because Calgary is about to eat salary on Marky and Vanacek?

Must be something like that, else why would NJD do us a solid?

Explain it to me because I am dumb.

I don't see this as Jersey doing us a solid, I see it as them trading $1.2M in cap space for a 4th. Seems reasonable.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

NJD take on salary to help broker the deal because Calgary is about to eat salary on Marky and Vanacek?

Must be something like that, else why would NJD do us a solid?

Explain it to me because I am dumb.

Calgary can only retain 50%

[tony-soprano]

3rd round pick is pointless, Flames are going to the finals anyways.

[Torture]

Kind of expected better tbh for Conroy to pull the trigger 8 days before deadline and with original ask of a 1st.

[PeteMoss]

I think it's very possible Conroy/Flames front office over rates defensive prospects in the mold of Grushnikov and if there were similar 2nd round + prospect offers... They may have picked a different package then I would but I suspect that's was the going rate for Tanev.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by musth

And great against greaser playoff chances

Their shipping players off to the Oilers playoff competition is pretty delicious. Dallas and Vancouver getting better probably makes the Oilers that much more desperate to improve too. I bet they ship off their 1st in an overpayment for a consolation prize D that won't help them nearly as much as Tanev.

[topfiverecords]

Pretty full cart of defensive prospects all of a sudden, so I say go forward heavy with all these draft picks this year. (Aside from best player available with the highest 1st)

[bigrangy]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The Manson trade that someone posted is a spot on comparison.
Same type of player
Same type of return.

I think guys like Manson and Tanev should be worth more, but that seems to be the going rate.

Helleson was at least a tier of prospect above Grushnikov though, he was looking really good in college when he was traded. Hasn’t panned out but was definitely held in high regard at the time. I recognize that it’s pretty comparable though.

I am holding out hope that the a scouts found a Unicorn in Grushnikov, that profile of player would be good.

I will say this trade is an absolute personal win if I don’t have to watch Poolman for rhe Wranglers any more. He is so frustrating.

[Sylvanfan]

Some of the proposed trade/fan expectations were completely out of whack. I was hoping they could pry Dellandrea loose, but maybe come summer. They sold a pending UFA for some picks, hopefully they get the Conditional 3rd if the Flames don't make the playoffs.

Should alleviate the concern that it's playoff revenue or bust for the Flames.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

NJD take on salary to help broker the deal because Calgary is about to eat salary on Marky and Vanacek?

Must be something like that, else why would NJD do us a solid?

Explain it to me because I am dumb.

Jersey bought a 4th round pick for peanuts (1/4 of what Tanev is owed for the rest of this year)

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

It really seems bad that this was the best he could get 9 days out. Should have made the Star's wait it out and see what other offers came up. Time will tell but the Athletic article so far is calling it a A+ for the Stars and a D for the Flames.

Meh, these guys also a year ago in fantasy trade proposals sent into them said that if they had Connor McDavid on a team and Colorado offered MacKinnon and Makar for him they would say no.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Pretty full cart of defensive prospects all of a sudden, so I say go forward heavy with all these draft picks this year. (Aside from best player available with the highest 1st)

Forward heavy with heavy forwards.

[Savvy27]

The 2nd is fine, but Grushnikov has a Brett Pollock of defenceman vibe to him. Hopefully he pans out but I looked through Jim Nill's trade history and he does not trade away prospects that have good NHL careers.

Nick Paul is the last good prospect that I could find Dallas trade away and that was for Spezza. Grushnikov and a very unlikely third round pick aren't much to be excited about.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Inferno

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...anev-to-stars/



I think the retention part might be wrong though.

Thanks! That makes more sense.

[Niemo]

I’m fine with the return. Obviously no one was offering a 1st since we’ve already waited a month+.

Onto Markstrom and Hanifin where I would expect 1st rounders.

[Tuco]

Multiple draft picks and a wildcard prospect in Grushnikov – seems like a pretty fair value for an often-injured 34-year-old UFA. Good luck to Tanev. Total warrior out there. Dallas will love having a guy like him in the playoffs, no doubt.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

It really seems bad that this was the best he could get 9 days out. Should have made the Star's wait it out and see what other offers came up. Time will tell but the Athletic article so far is calling it a A+ for the Stars and a D for the Flames.

How did they rate the Toffoli trade? Pretty much the same way IIRC.